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11/14/2023

07:27

Tuesday's Political Agenda: The Second Day of Sejm Debates

The Sejm will resume its proceedings at 16:00. The agenda includes a one-hour voting block, during which the Sejm's secretaries will be elected, along with the composition of the Rules Committee and representatives to the National Council of the Judiciary.


07:50

Scheuring-Wielgus:

The Coalition Agreement is Quite Good and Well-Crafted

I believe that this coalition agreement is quite good and well-crafted. It shows certain directions that we will pursue, but it also presents a certain idea for governing by this democratic majority. Shifting the debate and substantive work to the parliamentary chamber – stated Joanna Scheuring-Wielgus on RMF24.


07:51

Scheuring-Wielgus:

PSL and Hołownia are being evasive on the abortion issue

- Yes, I am very pleased that Marcelina Zawisza has negotiated at least a direct clause on hate speech towards the LGBT+ community. I am pleased that the coalition agreement includes two points, as far as I remember, regarding climate change and environmental protection. I am pleased that the coalition agreement addresses the issue of rental housing, that has also been included – said Joanna Scheuring-Wielgus on RMF24.

- There is the issue of IVF, anesthesia, and perinatal care. These are also our left-wing demands, and we have included them too. However, regarding abortion, it is true that TD and Hołownia are being a bit evasive. But yesterday, as Members of Parliament for The Left, we have already submitted two bills to the Marshal's office – one liberalizing abortion law and another decriminalizing abortion – she continued.


07:51

Scheuring-Wielgus:

I will urge our coalition partners to quickly elect the head of the state commission on pedophilia
Yes, I will want to urge our coalition partners for us to elect the head of the state commission on pedophilia as quickly as possible. I will remind you that it should be a lawyer, male or female – said Joanna Scheuring Wielgus in RMF24.

07:52

Scheuring-Wielgus on Razem Party's Decision Not to Join Government: They Made a Mistake

- This is their [Razem party] decision, they did not join the government. I believe they made a mistake. But they are still in the Left club, they are still with us, we cooperate together and nothing has changed here – stated Joanna Scheuring-Wielgus on RMF24.


08:10

Mastalerek:

The Coalition Agreement and Everything That Happened Yesterday in the Sejm Prove the President Was Right

- It's completely the opposite. The so-called agreement just signed between Civic Coalition, The Left, and Third Way, as well as everything that happened yesterday in the Sejm, is proof that the president was right - stated Marcin Mastalerek on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego".

- The president made his decision after 3 weeks, and at that time there was no coalition agreement. And this coalition agreement that has been presented, with all due respect, is an agreement about which one could say that the parties are writing that everyone should be beautiful, young, and rich - continued the Head of the President's Chancellery.


08:14

Mastalerek:

Tusk is in peak political form. He is handling political matters in a way that is very good for him

- Yesterday in the Sejm, we received further proof that the President was right to entrust the Prime Minister with the mandate. Yesterday, Donald Tusk, who admitted here in the TVN studio, I saw him during consultations at about this distance from you, Tusk is in peak political form. He is handling political matters both within his own camp among parties, and yesterday in the Sejm in a way that I think is very good for him - stated Marcin Mastalerek in TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego".

- Yesterday, he achieved three goals. Firstly, he showed his supporters, who want revenge on PiS, on the United Right camp, that they will get that revenge, because there will be no good, democratic principles as before, and Deputy Speakers will not come from the largest parliamentary clubs. Marshal Witek and Marek Pęk were humiliated. The most radical supporters got what they wanted. He achieved the first goal - the head of the President's Chancellery continued.

- Secondly, Donald Tusk diverted attention from the fact that there are no ministers, deputy ministers today, there is no team ready to govern [functions]. Because he didn't show them - he added.


08:18

Mastalerek:

Tusk Ended Hołownia's Presidential Ambitions Yesterday
Yesterday, Donald Tusk achieved a great success. He ended Szymon Hołownia's presidential ambitions. He played this situation so that, through Hołownia's hands, he brought about the Sejm becoming an element of a great commotion. Hołownia comes out and says: there will be new standards in the Sejm, after which a deputy speaker, representing a party that garnered 7.5 million votes, is not voted in - stated Marcin Mastalerek in "Rozmowa Piaseckiego" on TVN24.

08:18

Schetyna:

No one is taking PiS's seats in the Sejm and Senate. They will await individuals who previously acknowledged the opposition's rights and now wish to engage in debate
- This is PiS's decision, as they refused to talk and nominate individuals acceptable to the parliamentary majority in both the Sejm and the Senate, instead wanting to prove to the parliamentary majority that they are right, just as they have for the last 8 years. They are not right, because that time has come to an end - Grzegorz Schetyna stated in an interview with Marcin Fijołek on Polsat News's "Graffiti". - Today, we must talk and build consensus in parliament, something PiS did not understand and I hope they will understand in the near future - he added. - No one is taking this [Deputy Marshal] seat away from PiS in either the Sejm or the Senate. This seat will be waiting for the party to be represented by individuals who previously acknowledged the opposition's rights, and who today wish to speak the language of political debate, not the language of force and rejection, as was the case before - he declared.

08:24

Mastalerek:

Tusk Will Seek to Seize Maximum Power, Potentially Leading to Early Elections

Donald Tusk, being in top form, do you know what he will want to achieve? He will not accept the current situation, where he has to negotiate with the PSL, the Third Way, Poland 2050, the Left, a part of the Left that did not join the coalition, did not join the government, I'm talking about Razem. He will want to use his abilities, his knowledge, his experience to seize as much power as possible. Do you know what this could lead to? Early parliamentary elections in Poland – stated Marcin Mastalerek in the program "Rozmowa Piaseckiego" on TVN24.


08:25

Schetyna:

We want PiS to learn parliamentary democracy and understand the need to respect partners and those with different views
- We will fight for standards, because they are crucial in the Polish parliament. PiS has forgotten about this; for 8 years, they suppressed the rights of the opposition, insulted, turned off microphones, and made it a political norm, a custom. They thought it was this way because they would rule forever. We told them then: you will not rule forever, you will give up power - said Grzegorz Schetyna in "Graffiti" Polsat News. - Today we want – and we showed this yesterday – for them to learn parliamentary democracy, to understand that they need to respect a partner and someone who holds different political views, especially in parliament - emphasized the PO senator. - If they continue to want to insult, if they want to boycott work in the Presidium of the Sejm and Senate, that will be their decision, but it is a path to political catastrophe for them - he assessed. - Let them recover and find sensible people, because there are indeed such individuals among them, who will want to talk and work normally - he continued.

08:26

Mastalerek:

Yesterday's Scandal Shows the Other Side Only Claims to be Democratic but Doesn't Respect It

- What happened yesterday, this scandal, that the Deputy Speakers were not elected in both the Sejm and the Senate, shows that the other side only claims to be democratic but doesn't respect it - stated Marcin Mastalerek in "Piasecki's Conversation" on TVN24.


08:34

Mastalerek:

I Don't Believe the Prime Minister Will Give Up

- I believe that if someone starts something, if someone claims they will stand before the Sejm, that they will lobby, that they will convince, then they should do it, because there is no reason to give up and say: I surrender. I don't believe the Prime Minister will give up, and I hope these are unfavorable projections from you, Mr. Editor - stated Marcin Mastalerek in "Rozmowa Piaseckiego" on TVN24.


08:40

Mastalerek:

I can't imagine President Duda being a party operative after his term
- It is the right that should strive to refer to President Duda's legacy after his presidency. On the other hand, Andrzej Duda was never a party operative, and I cannot imagine… Before 2015, he was probably twice chosen by the weekly "Polityka" as the best MP of the term. He worked in the Sejm. He was a member of PiS, but he wasn't a party operative. I was a party operative; I held a position, I was the regional head, in the Political Committee, I spent most of my time at Nowogrodzka street, while Andrzej Duda worked on legislation and in the Constitutional Tribunal - stated Marcin Mastalerek in "Rozmowa Piaseckiego" on TVN24. - I cannot imagine President Duda being a party operative after his term and leading the right. I think it's simply impossible, but I do imagine, I am sure of it, that the right will want to refer to his legacy and that he will be a very important figure - he continued.

08:45

Schetyna:

Pęk insulted and called us Russian agents. Such people are unfit for cooperation
- He behaved [Marek Pęk] in a similar way [to Elżbieta Witek]. He insulted the majority formed by the parties of the then opposition, he called us Russian agents, we noted several of his aggressive statements towards Civic Platform or PSL at that time. We said that this is a person who, if they had the same power as Marshal Witek had in the Sejm, would do the same things or even worse in the Senate - said Grzegorz Schetyna in "Graffiti" Polsat News. - The point is that such people are unfit for cooperation and we cannot allow this to become a political norm if one has the opportunity and a parliamentary majority - he added.

08:48

Czarzasty:

PiS Has a Place in the Sejm Presidium. Let Them Nominate Someone Who Meets Our Democratic Standards
- This wasn't a matter of some political blockade of PiS. We, as the Left, very consistently criticized what Madam Marshal Witek was doing. What's more, six months ago we referred the matter of Madam Marshal's actions to the prosecutor's office. We had the same situation with regard to Konfederacja. Very critically during the entire election campaign, we also referred to Konfederacja in this studio, recalling the words of Mr. MP Mentzen and other people regarding women, regarding the European Union. [...] As for the Left, the obvious decision was to vote against the candidacy of Ms. Witek and against the candidacy of Mr. Bosak. We did both of these things, it was a unanimous decision of the entire club - said Włodzimierz Czarzasty in an interview with Bogdan Rymanowski on the program "Gość Radia ZET". - She [Elżbieta Witek] conducted Sejm deliberations terribly, she introduced mechanisms of double, triple voting at the moment when they were losing any votes. We believe she manipulated the Sejm. [...] We blocked a specific person due to that person's qualities. There is a place for PiS as the largest parliamentary club, let them nominate another person. [...] Let them nominate someone who, in our opinion, meets democratic standards - he continued.

08:53

Czarzasty:

We Will Definitely Push to Address Our Matters
- We have a multitude of things written into this coalition agreement that are important to us. Therefore, we will definitely push, just like every party forming this government, to address our matters. Fortunately, there are also many common issues - Włodzimierz Czarzasty said on Radio ZET.

09:00

Czarzasty:

In My Opinion, Many Bad Things Will Happen with the President's Acquiescence
- Prime Minister Morawiecki has no chance of gaining a majority, which was demonstrated by yesterday's votes [...]. I don't like this game, because it's actually a game with Poland, it's delaying important decisions by a month. It makes no sense [...] I blame President Andrzej Duda for this, because I believe that [...] with his acquiescence, in my opinion, many bad things will happen. I believe that schemers will be changing employment contracts with some one-year notice period. I believe that documents will be destroyed, because we know that they are - said Włodzimierz Czarzasty on Radio ZET.

09:02

Sawicki:

I Would Have Voted for Witek, and I Urged My Club and Poland 2050 to Do the Same

- Running the Sejm sometimes requires unconventional actions, the introduction of a certain discipline, and Marshal Witek did not cross those boundaries, but other politicians believe so, hence the decision not to elect her as Deputy Marshal, since PiS did not grant support to any of the current majority's candidates. They didn't even vote for the Confederation's candidate, which was astonishing to me. I would have voted for her, and I urged my club and Poland 2050 to do the same - stated Marek Sawicki on the program "Sygnały dnia" on PR1.


09:03

Schetyna:

The back rooms should be open to journalists
- They should [the back rooms be open to journalists]. In a way that would allow access to politicians, without paralyzing their work, of course. So there are places that might need to be excluded due to the functioning of committees or plenary sessions. But it has always been the case that this accessibility existed - said Grzegorz Schetyna in "Graffiti" Polsat News. - It seems to me that as a consequence of this thinking [the removal of barriers in front of the Sejm], Marshal Hołownia will certainly open them. He himself understands how important relations with journalists are - he added.

09:05

Czarzasty on Parliament Resolution Regarding So-Called 'Substitute Judges': We Will Vote on It When Hołownia Brings It to the Floor
- That's how it should be - said Włodzimierz Czarzasty on Radio ZET, when asked about passing a resolution in the Sejm to "annul the substitute judges of the Constitutional Tribunal". - When Marshal Szymon Hołownia orders it. [...] We will vote on it when Szymon Hołownia brings it to the floor - he continued.

09:06

Sawicki:

Morawiecki Received the Mandate to Form a Government, It Will Likely Take 2 Weeks, He Has Until November 27th

- Prime Minister Morawiecki has received the mandate to form a government. It will likely take two weeks because that's how long it will take him to assemble a new cabinet, so we have to wait. This is the procedure, it cannot be bypassed. He has until November 27th. Even if he doesn't come to the Sejm for a vote of confidence, the Sejm will definitely nominate its candidate, and the President has clearly stated that he will immediately accept the candidate nominated by the parliamentary majority - stated Marek Sawicki on the program "Sygnały dnia" on PR1.


09:12

Czarzasty on Kaczyński's Remarks: The Words of a Tired, Helpless Man Who Has Noticed the World Slipping Away
- I have observed certain behaviors for some time that indicate that [Jarosław Kaczyński] is losing control of his behavior. I mean, looking at it purely from a human perspective, I wish everyone well. I saw him tear a piece of paper from that wreath, I saw him approach the police officers in his helplessness, saying 'I am your boss, the head of security in Poland, you should help me,' and I saw those police officers run away. I hear the words he speaks in the Sejm. These are the words of a tired, helpless man who has noticed that the world, which he thought was the only one in existence, is slipping away from him - stated Włodzimierz Czarzasty on Radio ZET.

09:12

Sawicki on the Left's Bill on Abortion up to 12 Weeks: Their Goal is to Have Ideological Fuel for the Presidential Elections

- Their goal is to have ideological fuel for the presidential elections. This is not about solving the problem and easing the matter of the so-called Tribunal's ruling. However, I want to emphasize that what we, as Third Way, propose – restoring the abortion compromise, even reinstating the old law until any Tribunal addresses it – is a presumption of constitutionality – stated Marek Sawicki on the program “Sygnały dnia” on PR1.


09:14

Bosak:

PiS Needs to Nominate a Candidate Untainted by Previous Term Irregularities

- There is a willingness from all clubs to vote for, to supplement the Sejm's presidium with a candidate from PiS, there is just a need for PiS to provide a candidate who is not implicated in irregularities from the previous term of the Sejm - stated Krzysztof Bosak in a conversation with Robert Mazurek on the program "Morning Interview" on RMF FM.


09:15

Bosak on Tarczyński's Words: Let Him Deal with Matters from the European Parliament and Showing His Guests from Great Britain Around

- Tarczyński is not worth quoting; let him deal with matters from the European Parliament and showing his guests from Great Britain around - stated Krzysztof Bosak on RMF FM.


09:15

Bosak:

We're Playing into the Hands of Civic Platform

- Our proposal was 12 times the minimum wage. Civic Platform decided to outbid us, offering 60,000 zlotys, because according to our formula, it would have been 51,000 next year. And we are playing into Civic Platform's hands; we simply took their solution and added it to our project, and it's already been submitted - stated Krzysztof Bosak on RMF FM.

- If I'm to be honest, they will first examine the state of public finances, which they've been hinting at anyway. It's not in the coalition agreement, it's clear they've bypassed topics troublesome for them. I wish them well, and if the state of public finances is decent, I hope they fulfill their promises. This is a good standard for politics, and we want to encourage them - he added.


09:16

Czarzasty on Today's Sejm Session: I Think It Will Last an Hour, and There Will Be Another Next Week
- There is an agenda, I think this [today's] [Sejm] session will last an hour, we have a lot of organizational matters to sort out, things that are done at the beginning of a Sejm term, I think there will be another Sejm session next week. This is the decision of Marshal Szymon Hołownia - said Włodzimierz Czarzasty on Radio ZET.

09:16

Bosak on Bills for Free ZUS and Tax-Free Amount: Whatever Happens, Konfederacja Will Benefit

- The magic of this situation is that whatever happens, Konfederacja will benefit. Because if they do not submit our bills for a vote, they will break their promise that there is no parliamentary "freezer" [i.e., bills not brought to a vote]. If they do submit them, there will be a debate in which we will be able to articulate our approach. If they are voted through, we will be implementing our program, and if they are not voted through, then at least through debate we will be expanding the scope of public acceptance for our solutions and explaining to MPs, because one thing that few people know is that many things do not pass parliament simply because MPs do not understand them – stated Krzysztof Bosak on RMF FM.


09:17

Bosak:

Kaczyński and Morawiecki are Already Campaigning for Local and European Elections

- These various announcements and declarations made by Jarosław Kaczyński and Mateusz Morawiecki are absolutely already an element of the campaign for local government and the European Parliament - stated Krzysztof Bosak on RMF FM.


09:24

Czarzasty to Morawiecki and Duda: Finish, Sir, Spare Us Shame
- We will wait for all these procedures, which I believe we should shorten, and this is a remark to both Prime Minister Morawiecki and President Duda. [...] I'll say a banality at the end, to both of them, truly a banality, I'm even ashamed to say it: finish, sir, spare us shame. That is a good quote in this situation. I looked yesterday at Prime Minister Morawiecki, actually a lost man in this chamber, yes, actually a man who is no longer capable of conveying anything to this chamber, meaning what will he tell us in two weeks about what Poland looked like under his government? We know what it looked like, and what's more, people know, because they voted as they voted - said Włodzimierz Czarzasty on Radio ZET.

10:23

Müller:

Morawiecki's Mission is to Present an Alternative to the Coalition. Citizens Deserve This
- What happened yesterday was essentially a vote on personnel matters. Therefore, we have a discussion ahead of us on the government's program issues, and it is Prime Minister Morawiecki's mission to present an alternative to this coalition, which has currently signed general statements regarding the implementation of its program in the coming years. We, as the party that received the most votes in the election, simply feel obliged to present such an alternative - said Piotr Müller in an interview with Jacek Prusinowski on "Sedno sprawy" on Radio Plus. - We will present an alternative to Donald Tusk's declarations, which he makes, or rather, which he is not making at the moment, because he hasn't made many of them regarding program issues since the election. We believe that citizens deserve to be shown such an alternative. If it doesn't gain votes in parliament, that's the second step - he continued.

10:31

Müller:

Parliament Can Fulfill Election Promises Now. Today We Will Send the Credit Holiday Act
- This parliament, if it declares it has a different majority, can fulfill its election promises right now. [...] We will be sending the credit holiday act to them today, so that the Sejm can deal with this act immediately. Therefore, this is also a test for the majority, for the verification of the electoral promises of the other side – said Piotr Müller in the program „Sedno Sprawy” on Radio Plus. - The draft will be sent to the Sejm today. We adopted it a month ago, as announced, but there is a principle of discontinuity of parliamentary work, therefore today the Council of Ministers will again [...] adopt the same draft – he announced.

10:37

Pekao Analysts: Back Above the Line - Poland's Q3 GDP Grew by 0.4% YoY, Meeting Expectations

10:41

Müller:

Trzecia Droga is the Natural Ally with Partially Aligned Views with PiS. We are also Open to Konfederacja.
- The natural group of people who, in part, share views with PiS […], is Trzecia Droga broadly understood. Of course, Konfederacja, if there are individuals who, for example, also supported Marshal Witek yesterday, then we are also open - said Piotr Müller in the program “Sedno Sprawy” on Radio Plus. - This is also a kind of verification for people who want to choose between the “coalition of Polish affairs,” as the Prime Minister indicated yesterday, and what Donald Tusk presents and wants to implement - he continued.

10:47

Hennig-Kloska Announces Resolution on Substitute Constitutional Tribunal Judges:

I expect it today.

- It should be stated, and the Sejm will certainly address this issue urgently, that Andrzej Duda's refusal to accept the oath from three legally elected Constitutional Tribunal judges and his appointment of substitutes who should never have sat on the Tribunal also constituted a violation of the law. Today, among other things, we will be making decisions on this matter at the level of the future governing coalition. There is a draft resolution that the Sejm can adopt urgently on this matter. Whether it will be today? The decision rests with the Presidium of the Sejm - stated Paulina Hennig-Kloska in an interview with Patryk Michalski for WP.

- I expect a swift vote. I will support solutions that ensure the ability for legally elected judges, whom even the Constitutional Tribunal has ruled on, to work - the Third Way MP continued.

- I expect a vote of this nature today, however, I am not a member of the Presidium of the Sejm - she added.


10:57

Müller Indicates When Morawiecki's Proposed Government Will Be Revealed, Announces: We Want It to Differ from the Current One
- We are determined to form a government. I discussed this with the Prime Minister yesterday as well. We are preparing to present the new composition of the Council of Ministers to the President, and we are starting these preparations. This is the scenario we want to pursue - to present the composition of the Council of Ministers and ask the Sejm for a vote of confidence - said Piotr Müller in the program "Sedno Sprawy" on Radio Plus. When asked when the proposed composition of the new cabinet would be presented to the President, he replied: - The deadline is two weeks. I'd bet it will be approximately between the 12th and 14th day of this period. - We want it [the new government] to differ from the current government. Regarding the specific composition, we will discuss it once it has been formulated, but yes - it will certainly not be identical to the government that is currently functioning - he announced.

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14:51

Hołownia:

Democratic Standards Fully Restored. A Seat and Office Will Patiently Await a PiS Representative

- Yesterday, during the session, I hope something very good happened. We have restored democratic standards, which this Sejm has not seen for a long time. Every representative of a parliamentary club is assured a seat in the Sejm Presidium. This was not a standard in previous years, but now it will be the standard. Of course, as you know, one of the candidates, Ms. Elżbieta Witek, nominated by the PiS club, did not receive the Chamber's approval for the position of Deputy Marshal. We understand that this was the Chamber's assessment, which it is entitled to, the assessment of the MPs who had the opportunity to cooperate with Ms. Marshal previously, but this does not change the principle. As for the principle, democratic standards are fully restored. A seat and office will patiently await a PiS representative. I will be very pleased if this Presidium composition is completed – stated Szymon Hołownia at a press conference.


14:57

Hołownia:

Today, Among Other Things, We Will Elect Deputy Secretaries, Deputies Representing Sejm in KRS, and Establish the Standing Orders and Deputies' Affairs Committee

- Today we are continuing, probably there won't be as many exciting moments as yesterday. This continuation of the session is not expected to last particularly long. It will involve votes, we will elect deputy secretaries, deputies representing the Sejm in the National Council of the Judiciary (KRS), we will have the first reading of the Sejm Presidium's resolution proposal regarding the number of members of the committee for special services, and I also hope that we will establish the Standing Orders and Deputies' Affairs Committee - stated Szymon Hołownia at a press conference.


15:18

Hołownia Announces Address: 'This is a moment where it's appropriate to introduce oneself, explain why, and what it's all about'
Yes, I will deliver an address. I think it will be this week. I hope this address will not be solely directed at viewers of Polish Television. I respect them greatly, but please allow me to also address other Polish women and men who elected this Sejm, of which I have had the honor of being the Marshal since yesterday. This is a moment where it's appropriate to introduce oneself, explain why, and what it's all about, what we would like to do, and what changes can be expected. I would also like to talk to the voters, to tell them certain important things, the answers to which I will later hear through the media, during meetings, which I will likely have many of, and to continue this conversation – stated Szymon Hołownia at a press conference.

15:19

Hołownia:

I Ardently Hope to Meet with the President

- I ardently hope to meet with the President soon, perhaps even this week, and discuss various matters important for the state - stated Szymon Hołownia at a press conference.


15:20

Hołownia on the National Council of the Judiciary: Agreements and Consultations are Underway
We will deal with this soon, however, it is a serious matter that will require coordination between political groupings and the new Minister of Justice. Agreements and consultations are already underway on this matter; we are considering how to conduct this process quickly and efficiently. It doesn't have to happen in 5 minutes or within 2 weeks. So much damage has been done and harm caused that it might take several months, but these discussions are ongoing. We have prepared some specific proposals and legislative solutions – stated Szymon Hołownia at a press conference. - Today we are electing these 4 deputies to the KRS; the Senate has two of its representatives. This is important because next week the KRS will be dealing with applications for the appointment of Supreme Court judges. We want the voice of this new Sejm of the 10th term to be heard in this body – he added.

17:34

Budka:

The KRS Became a Place Where Mediocre, Passive, Yet Loyal Individuals Climbed the Judicial Career Ladder
- In accordance with Article 187, Paragraph 1, Point 3 of the Constitution of the Republic of Poland, it is the Sejm that elects four representatives to this constitutional body [KRS]. However, the Sejm of the previous term committed a serious violation of the constitution in this regard by electing, in addition to the designated individuals, 15 members of the National Council of the Judiciary, thereby clearly exceeding its powers. This has resulted in the current composition of the KRS, concerning these 15 judges elected by the Sejm, being patently contrary to the constitution – which renders the judicial appointments carried out by this body invalid – stated Borys Budka in the Sejm.

- The KRS, shaped in previous terms, unfortunately became a place where mediocre, passive, yet loyal individuals climbed the judicial career ladder. The whole of Poland witnessed how, under the dictate of a politician, members of this council changed their voting methods. We observed outrageous scenes where politicians returned after absences to this body and indicated how judges were to vote. Poland needs an independent judiciary – he continued.

17:35

Budka:

Today We Begin the Process of Purging State Institutions Corrupted by the Previous Government
- Ladies and gentlemen, today we begin the process of purging those institutions that have been corrupted by the previous government. Today is the time to say: enough of spoiling the state. Enough of hijacking constitutional bodies, but above all, enough of introducing standards that your Eastern friends would be proud of. You have done something unacceptable with the justice system – stated Borys Budka in the Sejm. - Today, we need people who know that the justice system is for controlling the government. Not for the government to control the justice system – he added.

17:38

Ziobro:

It's the Constitutional Tribunal that Decides if a Law Complies with the Constitution, Not Budka
- The greed of Civic Platform knows no bounds, but their insolence and arrogance is even greater. So, esteemed Mr. Budka, I wanted to remind you that it is the Constitutional Tribunal that decides whether something, in this case a law, complies with the Constitution or not, and not Borys Budka. That is the first point - said Zbigniew Ziobro during a Sejm session. - Secondly, Mr. Budka, it is the Constitution, this Constitution, which you and your colleagues so readily wave at KOD [Committee for the Defence of Democracy] demonstrations [...] so often. In these Constitutions [...] there is also a legal norm that states that as long as a law has not been challenged by the Constitutional Tribunal, and not by Mr. Borys Budka, it is law binding in Poland. So if you talk about law and the rule of law, then be consistent - he continued.

17:39

Ziobro:

I hope you won't turn out to be such cowards as during the State Tribunal era
- I warn you, after night comes day. The time will come when you too will find yourselves in the opposition benches, and then you will be held accountable for breaking the Constitution, but also for possible criminal offenses related to it. Don't be so self-assured, time flies quickly. [...] I am counting on you [reacting to shouts from the hall 'you will be jailed'], I hope you won't turn out to be such cowards as during the State Tribunal era - said Zbigniew Ziobro at a Sejm session.

17:42

Śmiszek to Ziobro: Your time has passed, not just at this podium, but in politics as well
- I have one piece of information for Mr. Prosecutor Ziobro. Your time has passed, not just at this podium, but in politics as well. You can shout, you can wave your hands, you can cause a commotion, but it won't achieve anything anymore. You are no longer in the government, and this may be the last time you speak from this position as a minister – said Krzysztof Śmiszek in the Sejm.

17:56

Czarnek-Hołownia Exchange of Words:

Mr. Rotating Marshal

- Mr. Rotating Marshal, the High Sejm is not rotating - stated Przemysław Czarnek in the Sejm.

- At this moment, Mr. Minister, you are undermining the dignity of this chamber and its bodies. You have three minutes for your statement - replied Szymon Hołownia.

- It was you who called this position the rotating marshal, not us, why are you complaining? Complain to your own people. Mr. Marshal, there is a good principle – do not measure someone by your own yardstick. It is you who are now abusing the regulations, and you are speaking of abuses of law even before I have spoken. For God's sake, do not measure someone by your own yardstick - said Przemysław Czarnek.

- Mr. Minister, you are using your time - replied Szymon Hołownia.

- Mr. Marshal, I am speaking now, these are the standards in a democratic chamber. We are dealing here with not only brazenness, but outright political boorishness. Moments ago, a representative of the Left, which received 1.8 million votes in these elections, spoke from this podium, speaking after Minister Zbigniew Ziobro, who ran from an electoral committee that received 7.6 million votes. If you count correctly, Mr. Śmiszek, but you don't count correctly, then almost 6 million more voters cast their ballots for the electoral lists from which Minister Ziobro ran. And you, from this podium, are expelling Minister Ziobro from politics moments ago? You have expelled over 6 million people from this country. They don't count for you, they are nobody to you, and these are not democratic standards. Democracy means that people have a voice, not "Śmiszki" who cannot count - said Przemysław Czarnek.

- Mr. MP, I must admit honestly that these are some standards that I do not fully comprehend. I show you respect, respect your position, I allow you to speak according to the regulations, and in return, I am met with something that can be called an affront. If these are your parliamentary standards, then I must say that I deeply regret it - replied Szymon Hołownia.


18:20

Schreiber:

You can strip us of all seats and positions, but we will use parliamentary rules to resist your aggression
I know that the standards you introduced during your time in government are dear to you. Judges on call, yes, we remember those standards. It is dear to you that the leader of your party invalidates a referendum at political rallies. It is dear to you that MPs from this podium invalidate laws and the constitution. These are new standards, but I want to assure you of one thing: we will not come to terms with this. You can strip us of all seats and all positions, but we will use the Sejm's regulations to resist your aggression, your breaking of rules, procedures, laws, and the constitution, and we will be resolute in this - stated Łukasz Schreiber in the Sejm. The last 8 years, from the left side of the hall, especially PO, have been marked by threats, and not just towards MPs - From this podium, in this discussion just now, not only words about presenting candidates were spoken, but a debate was conducted, albeit truly succumbing to democratic standards. Ministers and the right side of this hall were unlawfully accused of unbelievable and scandalous things. These last 8 years, I know the Speaker was not here with us then, these last 8 years, from the left side of the hall, especially the Civic Platform, have been marked by threats, and threats not only towards MPs, threats towards the media, threats towards judges. When the verdicts were unfavorable to you, this is how democracy looked to you, this is how the respect for law looked - stated Łukasz Schreiber in the Sejm. This was an expression of contempt towards 7.6 million voters - I say this as the Minister for Parliamentary Affairs; I have often seen with what contempt, with what rudeness, the Speaker was addressed, and what you showed yesterday, because you could have started differently. You began by depriving the largest parliamentary club of a seat in the Sejm's presidium. This, so you know well, is an expression of contempt, not contempt towards the Speaker, not contempt towards Law and Justice. This was an expression of contempt towards 7,600,000 voters - stated Łukasz Schreiber in the Sejm.

18:21

Myrcha to PiS: You've turned the KRS into the National Council of Loot
- Mr. MP Zbigniew Ziobro's speech reminded me a bit of words recently spoken by your closest political ally, a friend – Mr. MP Mateusz Morawiecki, who allowed himself a statement that may go down in the history of his activity as the only true one. Commenting on your achievements in the field of justice, he said: the cow that gives the least milk bellows the loudest – said Arkadiusz Myrcha in the Sejm. - Mr. MP Kaleta. The KRS under your rule does not function like a Spanish one. It functions like your State Treasury companies. You've turned the KRS into the National Council of Loot. Where are you, Mr. Kownacki, Mr. Mularczyk? Tell the public opinion boldly today – how much did you earn in the KRS? 100 thousand, 120 thousand? For heaven's sake, and what are the results of this work? Lengthening queues in courts. Vacancies for judicial positions, proceedings against the rule of law. Have a bit of honor, have a bit of dignity – he continued.

18:22

Gawkowski to PiS: You've been in opposition for 4 years, and that's how we'll treat you, just as you treated us
- Contempt, in your hands and in your version, was the greatest evil with which you treated not us, the parliamentarians, but Polish women and men. For 8 years, contempt was in your hands like a hammer, which at every Sejm session, at every government session, struck at people who wanted to live in a free, safe Poland that respected the constitution - said Krzysztof Gawkowski in the Sejm. - Today, this majority, on this side of the hall, is a majority that wants to respect you, but allow yourselves to be respected, Mr. Minister Ziobro. Because you don't even allow yourselves to be respected. If you want to discuss with us today, then let's discuss, but with seriousness, with reason - he continued. - Remember: you've been in opposition for 4 years, and that's how we'll treat you, just as you treated us - he concluded.

18:24

The National Council of the Judiciary Without PiS Representatives

The Sejm did not elect any of the PiS candidates to the National Council of the Judiciary (KRS). Only representatives of the new coalition were elected: Kamila Gasiuk-Pihowicz (246 votes), Tomasz Zimoch (246 votes), Anna Maria Żukowska (245 votes), and Robert Kropiwnicki (243 votes).

The PiS parliamentary club was the only one to vote for the PiS candidates.


18:37

Grupiński:

Ziobro, Alongside Kaczyński, Was the Main Architect of Undermining the Justice System and Must Face Criminal Charges and the Constitutional Tribunal
- If I were in Zbigniew Ziobro's shoes right now, I wouldn't be referring to the distant past, because one of the most important sections [...] in the coalition agreement is the section on accountability, and undoubtedly, judging by the number of sabers in parliament right now, there is no possibility for anyone from PiS or [...] Suwerenna Polska [...] who contributed to the bad order by trampling on the Constitution, to escape justice from independent courts [...] - said Rafał Grupiński in an interview with Anna Gielewska on RMF FM's "Popołudniowa rozmowa" (Afternoon Conversation). - At the moment, criminal liability [...] will be more important [than the motion to bring Ziobro before the Constitutional Tribunal] [...] these are reports to the prosecution, because I will draw attention to, for example, the Fund for Assistance to Victims and Post-Penitentiary Assistance, what Zbigniew Ziobro and his deputies did with this fund, firstly using it in their election campaigns for their parties, secondly for various entities subordinate or affiliated to them [...] instead of victims of domestic violence, these funds were simply handed out left and right [...] for this, there is serious liability, not to mention the fact that Zbigniew Ziobro is the main person who, alongside Kaczyński, dismantled the entire justice system, and for this, he must of course face criminal charges and the Constitutional Tribunal - he continued.

18:40

Grupiński:

Every ruling involving an illegally appointed judge is void from the outset
- Because we have rulings stating that substitute judges have been improperly elected, therefore they should not adjudicate in the Constitutional Tribunal, therefore every ruling in which an illegally appointed judge of the Constitutional Tribunal participated is void from the beginning - said Rafał Grupiński on RMF FM.

18:42

Hołownia:

I encourage you to ensure that contempt, hatred, and shouts of 'knock yourself on the head' never again grace this chamber
I have one more remark and a request for you, a comment also following what happened in this chamber. The microphones in the Sejm chamber only pick up those who are speaking. I would like Poles, who are following the Sejm debates, to know that today in this chamber, in my opinion, but I think also in the opinion of many of us, the standards of democratic debate have been crossed. I want to assure you that as the Marshal of the Sejm, I will never show you anything other than the respect and consideration that you have received from the citizens. However, I earnestly encourage you to ensure that the contempt, hatred, aggression, and shouts of 'knock yourself on the head' that we heard in this chamber today never again grace it, because they are a slap in the face to those who went to the polls on October 15th of this year – said Szymon Hołownia in the Sejm. - I am adjourning the session until November 21st, that is, until Tuesday, until 12 noon – he added.

18:45

Grupiński on Legalizing Abortion up to 12 Weeks: The Key Lies with Some Third Way MPs
- Of course, the key [to legalizing abortion up to 12 weeks] lies with some MPs from the Third Way [...] we know there won't be [ideological] discipline, etc., so undoubtedly we will have to see how these chances look. We will, of course, push for this, just as the Left is also decisive on this issue. However, there are also many other issues, such as perinatal care, the morning-after pill, and so on - said Rafał Grupiński on RMF FM.

18:49

Grupiński:

The President's Referencing the Constitution Sounds Truly Pathetic
- In my opinion, President Andrzej Duda's referencing the Constitution sounds truly pathetic today, because he is a politician who has trampled on the Constitution numerous times, starting with, for instance, those substitute judges [...] and ending with signing many laws, let's call them, in short, "Ziobro-esque" laws - said Rafał Grupiński on RMF FM.

20:09

Tusk:

Some, most, or perhaps all of PiS's recent decisions will be invalidated
- Today we had further nominations, grabbing the last positions, using money. Here you can see they are still very efficient and increasingly nervous. Certainly some, most, or perhaps all of the decisions, those from the last few days, will be invalidated, because they are made solely to secure their rear. I don't think we've observed anything like this in Polish politics since 1989 - said Donald Tusk in a conversation with journalists in the Sejm. - What strikes me the most is how shameless it is. […] Now we are seeing completely shameless actions by PiS, meaning: we will extend Morawiecki's term to the fullest, until the last day, as much as the Constitution allows, so that PiS can continue to plunder. I would have preferred them to finish better - he added.

20:23

Mastalerek:

Hołownia Has Become the Face of Revenge

- Civic Coalition (KO) announced this revenge during the election campaign and lost this campaign to Law and Justice (PiS). They received the same result as Trzaskowski previously did in the presidential elections, while Third Way was supposed to be something completely different and convinced people, voters, that they would not be like PO. Today we saw what Third Way looks like in the Sejm, and Donald Tusk played this matter in such a way that Szymon Hołownia, who dreamed of the presidency, has become the face of this revenge, this vendetta, and these quarrels that will take place in the Sejm - stated Marcin Mastalerek on TVP Info's "Gość Wiadomości".


20:24

Heads Rolled: Two Deputy Speakers of the Sejm and Senate, Representatives of the Largest Opposition Parliamentary Club, Sacked
- This is politics that, with the advent of the current majority government, led by Donald Tusk, will be very brutal and ruthless. This is a prelude to what will now happen in Poland. The heads of two deputy speakers of the Sejm and Senate, representatives of the largest opposition parliamentary club in both the Sejm and the Senate, have rolled - stated Marek Pęk in an interview with Bogdan Rymanowski on the program “Gość Wydarzeń” on Polsat News. - Of course, I consider this in terms of a breach of an undisputed parliamentary custom. It is like a sacred custom that the largest opposition club should have its representatives in the presidiums of the Sejm and the Senate, but an even more sacred custom is that this club should nominate its candidate, one whom it likes, whom it considers the best, not one whom the parliamentary majority in the Sejm or Senate likes - he added.

20:26

Pęk:

Extracting isolated tweets where I said something about a pro-Russian majority in the Senate is a mockery
- I obviously made things difficult, especially for Marshal Grodzki, because it was I who initiated the motion for his removal, I relentlessly, for many, many months, strived to have the Senate address the motion to lift the Marshal's immunity, and so on - stated Marek Pęk on Polsat News.

- I believe this is retaliation, because extracting some isolated tweets from me, in which I said something about a pro-Russian majority in the Senate, is actually a mockery, it's actually a forced search for a tweet according to that old, slightly modified principle, "give me a man, and a tweet will always be found" - he added.

20:26

Tomczyk:

This is another and final grab for positions and money

- The problem is that Mr. Schreiber knows perfectly well that he doesn't have that majority. It's about another grab for positions, another state institutions, for example today Mr. Patkowski became the president of the Polish Audit Supervision Agency. Former spokesperson of the Ministry of Health, a sinecure at the National Bank of Poland. Dozens of similar events are happening there, this is the last grab for money - stated Cezary Tomczyk in an interview with Monika Olejnik on the TVN24 program "Kropka nad I".


20:27

Schreiber:

The mission to form a government is a chance to offer MPs an alternative to the leftist proposal Tusk and his camp are offering

- The mission to form a government is a chance to offer MPs an alternative to this leftist proposal that Donald Tusk is offering with his camp. No, I haven't received any offer. You see, it's about giving all MPs and clubs a real chance, including MPs from PSL and Konfederacja, so they can't say, for example, after two years of Tusk's cabinet's disgrace, that they had no other choice, that PiS couldn't capitulate - stated Łukasz Schreiber on TVN24's program “Kropka nad I”.


20:28

Pęk:

We Will Not Nominate Another Candidate for Deputy Marshal in Either the Sejm or the Senate
- We will not nominate another candidate [for Deputy Marshal] in either the Sejm or the Senate, this concerns a fundamental principle, which I mentioned at the beginning. It is Law and Justice that should nominate these candidates and strive for the election of such a candidate as they consider best, not for the first, second, or perhaps finally on the fifth attempt for the Senate or Sejm majority to graciously agree to our candidate - stated Marek Pęk on Polsat News.

20:29

Pęk:

I Don't Think This Term Will Last a Full 4 Years
- I don't think this term will last a full 4 years. This total majority is united by nothing but hatred and the desire to settle scores with Law and Justice, and this is evident in yesterday's decisions, for instance. So, I think we will have a very stormy, and perhaps shortened, term - stated Marek Pęk on Polsat News.

20:31

Pęk on Hołownia: I won't criticize him. Yesterday was nice, today the stairs began
- I will not criticize Marshal Hołownia on the first combat day of the debates, because yesterday was nice, today, one could say, the stairs began. It's not all that simple. Marshal Hołownia entered politics and immediately became the most important representative in the Polish parliament, the second person in the state, the Marshal of the Sejm. Objectively speaking, this is a huge challenge - stated Marek Pęk on Polsat News.

20:33

Pęk on Sikorski: Nothing Predisposes Him to Be Minister of Foreign Affairs
- Sikorski represents precisely that worst tradition when it comes to brutality and vulgarity. I will recall his disgusting verbal excursions towards the late President Lech Kaczyński. He is one of Donald Tusk's most talented pupils of the "contempt industry." Absolutely nothing predisposes him to be Minister of Foreign Affairs – stated Marek Pęk on Polsat News.

20:35

Tomczyk to Schreiber: I have shocking news for you, we will also vote against a vote of confidence for Morawiecki

- I have shocking news for you, we will also vote against a vote of confidence for Mr. Morawiecki. Perhaps you are shocked by this information, but I would like to convey it - stated Cezary Tomczyk on the TVN24 program 'Kropka nad I'.


20:44

Tomczyk:

The Level of Arrogance and Hubris of Those Who Just Lost the Election Was Displayed in the Sejm Today
The level of arrogance and hubris of those who just lost the election was displayed in the Sejm today. What you are showing on the program today, what you said from the podium today, what Mr. Czarnek is saying. If you were wondering why you lost the election, this is precisely why. People have had enough of this arrogance and hubris – stated Cezary Tomczyk on the TVN24 program “Kropka nad I”.

20:55

Budka:

Hołownia performed very well, he didn't let himself be provoked
Borys Budka stated in the program "Fakty po faktach" on TVN24, "Szymon Hołownia performed very well. He didn't let himself be provoked and showed what this function entails. It's truly a mockery if, for instance, MP Terlecki suddenly insists that PiS MPs can speak longer. I'll remind you that it was Mr. Terlecki who always gave half a minute to ask a question. It was Ms. Witek who completely eliminated the possibility of asking questions in the third reading. They are the ones who made a farce out of the Sejm, and today they tried to abuse the regulations.

20:56

Budka:

Kaczyński Appears Genuinely Lost. After Eight Years, He Must Understand the Sejm Without Rules Has Ended

- Jarosław Kaczyński appears genuinely lost. After eight years, he must understand that the Sejm without rules has ended. Jarosław Kaczyński has repeatedly violated the Sejm's regulations, demonstrating that for him, no rules matter – Borys Budka said on TVN24.


20:56

Budka:

The composition of the National Council of the Judiciary is unconstitutional. We must change it, just as we annulled the election of three substitute judges to the Constitutional Tribunal.

- Yes, of course [the coalition has agreed on how to fix the KRS]. This composition within the judiciary is inconsistent with the Polish constitution. Of course, justice must be reformed in the correct order. First, the election of those three Constitutional Tribunal judges must be declared void. Because I will remind you that this is the implementation of the legal ruling of the Tribunal from 2015 – stated Borys Budka on TVN24.


20:57

Budka on Bosak's Election as Deputy Speaker: We Respect the Choice of Poles, We Respect the Principles of Democracy

- We respect the choice of Poles, we respect the principles of democracy (...) We said – Confederation has the right to nominate its candidate. We abstained from voting because we cannot judge Mr. Bosak's views. We are very far from those views. We disagree with those views, however, this candidate cannot be accused of breaking the law anywhere – said Borys Budka on TVN24.


21:07

Mastalerek on Opposition Voices: Morawiecki Must Campaign to the End, as Conflict Between These Formations is Inevitable
- We must campaign to the end, because a lot can still happen this month, but also many months or even decades can happen, which is why Prime Minister Morawiecki must campaign to the end, because the conflict between these formations is inevitable. Each has a different interest, which is why they didn't create a single list, because only one thing unites them – they simply wanted to remove PiS – stated Marcin Mastalerek on TVP Info's "Gość Wiadomości".

21:11

Mastalerek:

Brawls Are Necessary So One Can Quietly Fail to Implement Their Program
Soon, more such situations will arise, and we will likely witness the following game. There will be the so-called good uncle, Donald Tusk, who will sit back, while brawls will erupt in the Sejm. And why are these brawls, why do they need these brawls? So that one can quietly fail to implement their program. To hide the fact that ministers and deputy ministers are not yet in place. That's what the brawl in the Sejm is for – stated Marcin Mastalerek on TVP Info's "Gość Wiadomości".