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01/08/2024

07:27

Monday's Political Agenda: Hołownia Consultations on Kamiński and Wąsik Mandates, Duda's Carols with the Polish Olympic Family, Tusk at Śledzińska-Katarasińska's Farewell, First Day of the Monetary Policy Council Meeting

Prime Minister Donald Tusk will participate in the funeral ceremonies for the late Iwona Śledzińska-Katarasińska. The funeral ceremonies will begin at 12:00 PM with a mass at the Church of St. Teresa and St. John Bosco. After the mass, the funeral procession will proceed along Grzegorz Pałka Avenue to Telefoniczna Street. The late Iwona Śledzińska-Katarasińska will be laid to rest in the Avenue of the Meritorious at the Doły Cemetery in Łódź.

Today, Sejm Marshal Szymon Hołownia is scheduled to meet with the Minister of Justice and Prosecutor General, Adam Bodnar. Following this, a meeting with the Ombudsman, Marcin Wiącek, and retired judges is planned.

At 6:45 PM in Warsaw, the President of the Republic of Poland, Andrzej Duda, will participate in a joint carol singing event with the Polish Olympic Family.

Today and tomorrow, a two-day meeting of the Monetary Policy Council will take place, during which a decision regarding interest rates may be made – although, it seems, the most probable scenario is to leave them unchanged.


07:52

Mastalerek:

The President Will Invite Marshal Hołownia Today

- The President will invite Marshal Hołownia to the Presidential Palace today. Invitations for Marshal Hołownia will be sent out this morning. So, Mr. Marshal, perhaps we will see each other at the Palace, if, of course, the Marshal accepts the invitation, but I believe he will, because very important matters are unfolding and the President has decided to invite Marshal Hołownia - stated Marcin Mastalerek during "Rozmowa Piaseckiego" on TVN24.


07:57

Mastalerek:

President Has No Intention of Issuing a Second Pardon

- The President has no intention of issuing a second pardon. The first one was effective - stated Marcin Mastalerek in the "Piasecki's Interview" on TVN24.


08:10

Mastalerek:

Rule of Law According to PO Means When Platforma is in Power

- I will tell you what this dispute is about. It's like this: rule of law according to PO means when PO is in power, and then when those from the two largest factions govern in Brussels or in other member states, then there is rule of law. But if the right-wing governs, then there is no rule of law. That's what this dispute is about - stated Marcin Mastalerek during "Rozmowa Piaseckiego" on TVN24.


08:34

Mastalerek:

KO and Third Way Promised Calm and Harmony After October 15th; Instead, There's Even More Chaos and Bickering

PO, KO, and the Third Way promised that after October 15th there would be calm, harmony, a land flowing with milk and honey. And do you know what we have? Even greater chaos, even greater bickering, and in effect, nobody knows what's going on. Nobody understands what is happening – stated Marcin Mastalerek on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego".


08:39

Kamiński:

I will likely soon be the first political prisoner in Poland
- I am not a criminal, but most likely, I will soon be the first political prisoner in our country. [...] For loyalty to certain principles, for devotion to the Polish state - said Mariusz Kamiński in the "Morning Conversation" on RMF FM. - Few people know what I was convicted of in the last trial that was brought against me. [...] Only two charges have been formulated against me and my colleagues: the first charge concerns the fact that an undercover officer [...] recorded his conversations with a suspect in two hotel rooms, which the court deemed illegal, and the second charge concerns the allegation that the Central Anticorruption Bureau could not independently produce legalization and masking documents for operations conducted in accordance with the law, with the consent of the prosecution, for operations involving the controlled handover of financial benefits - he continued. - I acknowledge that I will be taken to prison, yes, that is a real prospect. [...] I will fight. I will fight in every possible way available to political prisoners. [...] I will be a free man while I am there - he went on to say.

08:42

Mastalerek:

No One Will Mourn the National Broadcasting Council If It Leads to Systemic Solutions

- I am convinced that after the veto of the budget-related act, which included PLN 3 billion, the new governing coalition will not have money for TVP and, thanks to this, will have to solve this matter in a systemic way. Will the National Broadcasting Council be dismissed? I think no one will mourn it if it leads to systemic solutions to these issues - stated Marcin Mastalerek in the "Piasecki's Conversation" on TVN24.


08:48

Kamiński:

I am still a Member of Parliament, exercising my rights. The Supreme Court has dealt with my case; one cannot be tried twice for the same offense.
- This is complete nonsense. Marshal Hołownia made the decision to revoke my mandate on December 21st. On December 22nd, I was in the Sejm, participating in votes, and those votes have not been challenged. I am performing my mandate; it is my duty - Mariusz Kamiński said in RMF FM. - I am still a Member of Parliament, exercising my rights. I filed an appeal against the Marshal of the Sejm's decision to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court has ruled on this matter, invalidating [...] By what right [should the decision be] from another chamber? This case has already been judged; the Supreme Court has ruled on this matter, invalidating Marshal Hołownia's decision concerning the revocation of my mandate - he continued. - There are Supreme Court decisions that must be honored. [...] The Supreme Court has already dealt with my case, and one cannot be judged twice for the same offense - he further stated.

08:54

Kamiński:

Only Physical Violence Against Me Will Prevent Me from Voting and Entering the Sejm Chamber
- Yes, of course [I will go to the Sejm]. I am still a Member of Parliament, it is my duty, my duty to my voters [...]. I am not hiding behind any immunity. I acknowledge that the lawlessness that is starting to reign in our country will lead to a situation where I may be in prison within a few days. Yes, I am ready for that, I am ready to act under any circumstances, but my duty is to be there, and only physical violence against me will prevent me from participating in the votes that will take place in the Sejm on Wednesday and from entering the Sejm chamber - said Mariusz Kamiński on RMF FM. - I will not get into a scuffle with anyone, although I acknowledge that physical violence may be used against me, which is unacceptable - he continued.

09:13

Myrcha on Kamiński and Wąsik: If it were up to me – I wouldn't let them in

- If it were up to me, I personally would not have let them in. Their cards are deactivated, they cannot participate in votes because these IDs confirm the right to participate in votes. Nobody imagines that anyone, even the most radically thinking representatives of PiS, will try, choosing a forceful option, to show that Kamiński and Wąsik still have anything to say. Nobody imagines that PiS MPs will surround them with a cordon and try to force their way in [to the plenary hall]. What would that serve, some demonstration of power over law? - stated Arkadiusz Myrcha in a conversation with Bogdan Rymanowski on the program "Gość Radia Zet".


09:15

Myrcha on Bodnar-Hołownia Meeting: Minister of Justice Will Primarily Explain the Legal Situation

- The Minister of Justice will primarily explain the legal situation. Messrs. Kamiński and Wąsik have been sentenced to prison by a final court ruling, and this sentence is binding. The gentlemen should soon be sent to serve their sentences. What is currently being debated concerns exclusively the expiration of their mandates - stated Arkadiusz Myrcha on the program „Gość Radia Zet”.


09:16

Myrcha on Hołownia-Duda Meeting: 'I have the impression the President is trying to politically assert himself in the entire situation'
I have the impression the President is trying to politically assert himself in the entire situation. After all, the functioning Chamber of Control and Public Affairs is somewhat his political brainchild - stated Arkadiusz Myrcha on the program "Gość Radia Zet". -From the leaked emails of Mr. Dworczyk, we know that the Prime Minister's Office, the President's Office, were involved in determining the composition of the Chamber of Control and Public Affairs. President Duda feels somewhat responsible for the turmoil and would probably like to support this Chamber of Control today - he added.

09:18

Myrcha on Coalition Cooperation in Local Elections: "I'm a Supporter of Cooperation, But You Can't Force Anything"

This must be a joint decision. I am always a supporter of cooperation, but you can't force anything – stated Arkadiusz Myrcha on the program "Gość Radia Zet".


09:38

Ociepa:

The Polish Right Needs Renewal More Than Ever Since 2015
- The Polish right needs this renewal more than ever since 2015, and this name [the OdNowa association] chosen over two years ago is proving to be very apt now. What should it entail? First and foremost, we need to return to our roots as a formation, a broadly understood formation; I don't mean just Law and Justice, but a certain political camp that has a broad, inclusive offer for Poles, to process what went wrong and move forward - said Marcin Ociepa in a conversation with Marcin Fijołek on the Morning Program Siódma9. - Contrary to the narrative of a significant portion of the media supporting the currently ruling side, Civic Platform, the right has not become degenerate. Of course, there are always exceptions, but they confirm the rule. Wherever irregularities appear, even crimes, which unfortunately do happen, people are flawed, including on the right, there has always been a reaction from the state, meaning those individuals were always removed from their positions, charges were always brought against them, there was no protection or defense of one's own - he continued.

09:49

Ociepa:

Diversity Doesn't Have to Be a Curse for the Right. Statehood Should Be the Key, the Common Denominator for Ziobro, Morawiecki, and Myself
- Diversity [...] doesn't have to be something bad, it doesn't have to be a curse, although it was for the right for many years before 2015. And now, if I were to look for a certain key, that key should be statehood [...] a pro-state approach - said Marcin Ociepa in the morning program Siódma9. - If we differ somewhere, I'm talking about the right, from the other side of the political scene, which is what Civic Platform offers, it is precisely that we take the state seriously, we appreciate the state, we understand the role the state has to play to protect and support the development of the citizen. The other side places emphasis on completely different values, either on external forces – the European Union will do everything for us – or on poorly understood individualism, which leads us to focus on individual freedom, without understanding that the state is precisely there to protect individual freedom - he continued. - A pro-state approach is the common denominator for Zbigniew Ziobro, Mateusz Morawiecki, and Marcin Ociepa - he added.

09:57

Ociepa:

We are establishing seven program teams, launching the State-Thought Club
- As OdNowa [...] we are establishing seven program teams focusing on the most important areas of state life. We want to build a social movement around these various postulates, around this conversation about Poland, that Poland is important, that the state is important, that it is necessary for citizens. And this is something that will allow us to soon present a new programmatic agenda, new postulates, which will be a new offer for our voters - said Marcin Ociepa on Poranek Siódma9. - We are establishing the State-Thought Club. Just next to the Sejm, 100 meters from the Sejm, there will be a place where parliamentarians of different political options, but united by a pro-state approach, will be able to meet, will be able to talk, thanks to which, I deeply believe, we will be able to overcome certain barriers even during this term - he continued.

10:09

Ociepa:

There is no doubt that Wąsik and Kamiński are MPs
- The case of Ministers Wąsik and Kamiński is extremely serious. There is no doubt that they are MPs. [...] The President's right of pardon is in effect, and there is no constitutional limitation on its application, period. - said Marcin Ociepa on the morning program Siódma9. - Depriving one or the other parliamentarian, especially from the opposition, of the right to sit in the chamber, even though they were just literally elected to the Sejm by the votes of Poles, is a serious challenge to our system. Because if we agree that mandates can be taken away in this way today, against the will of the citizens, then this could end very badly. - he continued. - Both gentlemen were accused not in a land fraud scandal, meaning they did not commit a corruption offense, but rather [...] they were fighting corruption. [...] These gentlemen stole nothing, killed no one [...]. A crime did occur there, and today the people who led to the discovery of this scandal [...] these people have been convicted because, according to the court, they fought corruption improperly - he went on to say.

10:18

Ociepa:

I Believe We Can Form a People's Government Even This Term. The Current Coalition is Artificial and Already Crumbling
- Yes [there is a parliamentary majority of pro-state people in today's plenary hall], yes, absolutely. I believe we can form a people's government even in this term. Broadly understood people's government, not only with the people's movement, i.e., with the PSL, but a people's government that will serve the people, serve the citizens - said Marcin Ociepa during the Siódma9 morning program. - This coalition is artificial, it will collapse sooner or later, it is already collapsing. The way Donald Tusk is pushing Szymon Hołownia to the forefront of the fight against Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik, to the forefront of the fight against PiS, to the forefront, in essence, of the fight against the Polish state as a series of institutions [...] this is only a premise for me, a political science one, that sooner or later this coalition will collapse because Szymon Hołownia will discover that he is playing a role in a game that is not his - he continued. - Let him build his own majority, around himself, around the office of the Marshal of the Sejm, let him build a majority. Around Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz as the Minister of National Defence, let him build a majority. He doesn't have to build around PiS; even a minority government in this configuration would be better - he added.

10:32

Bosak on Kamiński and Wąsik: In My Opinion, They Are MPs
- Lawyers will support each other, and we as members of the Sejm presidium must make decisions, because the Sejm must function, so I will say it briefly: in my opinion, they are [Kamiński and Wąsik are MPs] - said Krzysztof Bosak in an interview with Jacek Prusinowski on the program "Sedno Sprawy" on Radio Plus. - This is a purely technical matter, the cards can be activated at any moment, the matter of deactivating these cards was not discussed at the Sejm presidium. In my opinion, such decisions should be made after consultation with the leaders of all parliamentary clubs and after deliberations at the Sejm presidium. [...] In my opinion, it would be much safer if the Marshal of the Sejm conducted proper consultations with all clubs and with the Sejm presidium, because the matter is very serious - he continued. - The action of one official, even the head of the Chancellery of the Sejm, consisting of deactivating the cards, has no legal significance, it is a technical action. [...] The decision of the Marshal of the Sejm to annul the mandates has been overturned by the Supreme Court, and thus it simply does not exist since it was overturned. [...] The attempt to reroute this matter to another chamber has all the hallmarks of some strange intrigue for me, it is quite truly unprecedented for people in the rank of Marshal of the Sejm or President of the Supreme Court to agree with each other and publicly admit that they tried to steer the matter in one direction and not another, where it is known that there is a very strong division among Supreme Court judges in various opinions, and that directing the matter to one place or another can influence the content of the ruling - he went on to say.

10:42

Bosak:

We Face the Risk of the Sejm Convening with an Unconstitutional Composition, Enacting Laws Invalidly
- What threatens us is the risk that the Sejm will convene with an unconstitutional composition, what threatens the Marshal of the Sejm is a violation of the law, and what threatens us, as the Sejm [...] is the enactment of laws invalidly - said Krzysztof Bosak on Radio Plus. - That the laws are invalid, someone would have to state, however, one can say that they would be flawed, because if we have it written in the Constitution that the Sejm is 460 deputies, then if we have a decision by the Marshal of the Sejm to revoke mandates overturned by a resolution of the Supreme Court, then we should convene and vote with a composition of 460 [deputies], and the opinion that someone doesn't like the chamber of the Supreme Court and someone doesn't like the content of the ruling, that is just an opinion - he continued. - In my opinion, we currently have a big problem with the understanding of the rule of law, which consists in the fact that some people have equated their legal or political opinions with the rule of law. I perceive the rule of law in such a way that, whether we like the rulings and institutions or not, we simply respect the decisions made. And it seems to me that all those who believed they were defending the rule of law have gone so far in their approach that they no longer respect the Constitutional Tribunal, parts of the Supreme Court, the president's competences, parts of the Constitution's provisions, and they call this the rule of law, because they have support in Luxembourg, Strasbourg, and Brussels. For me, this is a paradox, this is anarchy - he went on to say.

10:53

Bosak:

We have a complete deadlock in judicial disciplinary responsibility. We have a court that disregards the president's pardon.
- I just realized that if they remove me [from the position of Deputy Marshal of the Sejm] without allowing some MPs to vote, I will have the right to consider that decision and that vote invalid. And this kind of game can now begin on any issue, and this is a risk that weighs on us as the Sejm and especially on Marshal Hołownia - said Krzysztof Bosak on Radio Plus. - In my assessment, we have something of a rokosz or rebellion by a part of the judiciary against certain institutions of the Polish state, supported from abroad by the court in Strasbourg, Luxembourg, and Brussels. And at the same time, we have a complete deadlock in what the PiS government tried to improve, namely judicial disciplinary responsibility. That is, on the one hand, we have, for example, the president who applied the right of clemency to MPs [...] and has such a constitutional competence, and at the same time, we have the district court in Warsaw which simply couldn't care less that the president granted a pardon and says: I will sentence them definitively, what of it. And these judges, acting against the president's constitutional authority, will probably not bear responsibility before anyone - he continued.

11:19

Kobosko:

Kamiński and Wąsik's Place is in Prison; That's the Current State of Affairs

- Regarding MP Braun, I will repeat myself once more. Legal steps are being taken against him, and rightly so. A report was filed with the prosecutor's office concerning his violation of the law. As for both gentlemen [Wąsik and Kamiński], we have final judgments issued by an independent court. I know there is a discussion ongoing, parallel to the one we are having in the studio right now, concerning when they should be sent to prison. This is because an unconditional prison sentence has been imposed, and that is where their place is today. So, while we ponder whether they will enter or not enter the Sejm, the real discussion is about which correctional facility they will be in and when they will be there. That is the real situation – stated Michał Kobosko on the Polsat News program "Graffiti".


11:32

Kobosko:

The Chamber of Extraordinary Review of the Supreme Court is Not a Court

- We spoke clearly. It cannot be the case that any party says, 'we have our judges' – this is the moment when a citizen must truly start to fear that Poland is destabilized, if any party dares to say. 'I have public media, I have courts, I have my prosecutors, I have my judges in the Supreme Court.' This is a total crisis of the Polish state – said Michał Kobosko on Polsat News.

- [The Chamber of Extraordinary Review of the Supreme Court] is not a court. Of course, it is not a court. We exist as a member state of the EU, and upon joining the Union, we committed to adhering to common principles – he added.


11:33

Kobosko on Hołownia's Invitation to the Presidential Palace: It's Very Good That Duda Wants to Actively Engage in Resolving the Legal Mess He Co-Authored

I know that the Presidential Palace is currently pursuing a policy where Minister Mastalerek effectively plays the role of the Deputy President of the Republic and informs about certain matters instead of the president. If there were such an invitation [for Marshal Hołownia], I think it's very good that this is happening, that the president wants to actively engage in the process. Well, President Duda is, in reality, the co-author of the legal mess and judicial chaos that we have in Poland today. It's very good if he feels co-responsible for at least an attempt to exit this entanglement we have found ourselves in – stated Michał Kobosko on Polsat News.


11:35

Wąsik:

I'm Returning to My Duties - January 10th in the Sejm

- On Friday there was a notification, and today I received a letter from Marshal Hołownia dated December 21st. It asks me to refrain from my parliamentary duties until the appeal to the Supreme Court is resolved. The Supreme Court ruled on my appeal in my favor on January 4th. Therefore, I am returning to my duties! January 10th in the Sejm - wrote Maciej Wąsik on Twitter.


11:39

Bodnar on Kamiński and Wąsik: The gentlemen are convicted by a final verdict, their mandates have been extinguished

- I think we have a clear situation here. The gentlemen [Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik] have been convicted by a final verdict, their mandates have been extinguished, while a dispute is ongoing before the Supreme Court regarding its effectiveness - stated Adam Bodnar in a conversation with journalists in the Sejm.


12:16

Wiącek:

The Supreme Court, ruling under electoral law, lacks the competence to challenge a final criminal court judgment
- This final criminal court judgment has produced the legal effects associated with criminal court judgments, and the only way to challenge this judgment would be through an appeal, for instance, a cassation. The Supreme Court, ruling under the Electoral Code, does not have the competence to challenge a final criminal court judgment. It is the Marshal's decision [whether to admit MPs Kamiński and Wąsik into the chamber] how the Marshal will react to this situation - said Marcin Wiącek in an interview with journalists.

12:17

Wiącek:

The President's Resumption of the Right of Grace Could Involve Remission of Punishment, but It Has No Power to Turn Back Time and Erase the Fact of a Verdict
- The right of grace is possible, but the essence of the right of grace is that it consists in the remission of punishment. It can also consist in expunging a conviction. However, when exercising the right of grace, the fact of a guilty verdict being issued cannot be challenged. The right of grace cannot produce such an effect [...] through the right of grace, one cannot create a fiction that a legally binding criminal court verdict was not issued. Therefore, if the president were to apply the right of grace at this moment, it could consist in the remission of punishment, in the expungement of the conviction, but the right of grace has no power to turn back time and eliminate the fact of a legally binding criminal court verdict having been issued. [...] I believe that the mandate expired the moment a legally binding criminal court verdict was issued - said Marcin Wiącek in an interview with journalists.

12:36

Manowska Issues Statement "In Response to the Unlawful Actions of the President of the Chamber of Labor and Social Security of the Supreme Court and the Marshal of the Sejm"

- I receive with dismay the disregard by the President of the Chamber of Labor and Social Security, Piotr Prusinowski, for Order No. 1/2024 of the First President of the Supreme Court of January 4 this year, which resolved the competence dispute between the Chamber of Extraordinary Control and Public Affairs and the Chamber of Labor and Social Security, unequivocally stating the competence of the Chamber of Extraordinary Control and Public Affairs in the appeal filed by MP Mariusz Kamiński against the Marshal of the Sejm's decision to revoke his parliamentary mandate - wrote the First President of the Supreme Court in a statement.

"Such an action constitutes a significant violation of the legal order of the Republic of Poland, is the result of the arbitrariness of the President of the Chamber of Labor and Social Security, acting in concert with the Marshal of the Sejm – a legislative authority. It is outrageous that such an agreement has been reached in a matter aimed at the Supreme Court's review of the legality of the Marshal of the Sejm's decision. The legislative authority transferred the appeal of MP Mariusz Kamiński to a chamber other than that specified by law and other than that designated by the appellant, and the President of the Chamber of Labor and Social Security supported such actions. These circumstances, unfortunately, raise questions about the impartiality of the actions of the President of the Chamber of Labor and Social Security, as they may cause citizens to doubt the apolitical nature of the Supreme Court as an organ of justice.

Such actions by the President of the Chamber of Labor and Social Security constitute a violation of national law, including the internal regulations in force within the Supreme Court, nor are they based on the judgment C-718/21 of the Court of Justice of the European Union of December 21, 2023. In paragraph 74 of this ruling, it was clearly indicated that the reservations concerning the Chamber of Extraordinary Control and Public Affairs were formulated 'solely for the purpose of assessing the admissibility of requests for preliminary rulings lodged under Article 267 TFEU'. Therefore, they do not concern any other issues. It should also be emphasized that matters concerning electoral law, including the expiration of a parliamentary mandate, have not been transferred to EU bodies and are not governed by European law. The same applies to reservations formulated by the European Court of Human Rights on the basis of Article 6(1) ECHR, as this provision does not concern the review of the Marshal's decisions on the expiration of a parliamentary mandate, which the Court itself has repeatedly stated, most recently in 2016 in the case of the expiration of parliamentary mandates of Dariusz Barski and Bogdan Święczkowski (§ 57)
"


14:04

Hołownia:

I Must Organize a Process That Was Supposed to Be Simple, But Isn't – Due to the State of the Country and the Rule of Law After Eight Years of PiS Rule

- I will not engage in commentary today; I have serious constitutional matters to attend to and I must organize a process that was supposed to be simple, but has turned out not to be. This is due to the state in which the country and the rule of law find themselves today, after those eight years of PiS rule. We will do it, we will carry it out effectively. However, to be absolutely clear about our situation and to be able to explain to people, very clearly and concretely, what our situation is, I want to discuss it today – stated Szymon Hołownia in a conversation with journalists.


14:05

Hołownia:

The Mandate of Both Gentlemen Has Expired, but I Hope We Will Resolve This Matter This Week

- I hope that this week we will be able to resolve this matter. Everything is possible [postponement of the second Sejm session from the 10th]. My goal, and I have spoken about this very clearly, is for social calm, based on the law, to prevail in Poland, including on this issue, but also on other matters. Which is the same for everyone – said Szymon Hołownia in a conversation with journalists in the Sejm.


14:05

Presidential Palace Hosts Meeting Between President and Sejm Marshal

A meeting between President Andrzej Duda and Sejm Marshal Szymon Hołownia has begun at the Presidential Palace.


15:08

New Director Appointed to Government Information Centre

Kamila Terpiał, formerly a journalist for Polish Radio among other roles, has become the new director of the Government Information Centre.


15:30

Hołownia After Meeting with the President: We Stuck to Our Positions
- The atmosphere was good [...] the entire conversation proceeded with a sense of responsibility for the state and the understanding that the president, as president, and I, as Marshal of the Sejm, in this evident crisis we have found ourselves in, despite differing viewpoints, must ensure that this crisis is not escalated and that unnecessary emotions, which we truly have enough of today, are not stirred up - said Szymon Hołownia in a conversation with journalists after his meeting with President Andrzej Duda. - As for the substance, we stuck to our positions. The President maintains his deepest conviction that Mr. Wąsik and Mr. Kamiński have been validly, effectively, and decisively pardoned by him, whereas I hold the position that the district court's verdict in this matter is unambiguous and entails the appropriate consequences. Thus, we each remained at our own positions with a sense of profound responsibility that the processes currently underway in Poland [...] cannot lead to cracks and any unrest that could arise in the country - he continued. - The President believes that they [Kamiński and Wąsik] are members of parliament - he added.

15:51

Duda:

I Proposed to Marshal Hołownia to Acknowledge the 2015 Pardon as Effective. We Did Not Reach an Agreement

- In 2015, I decided to pardon these convicted individuals, including Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik, which has recently been described as a textbook case, and why? For a very simple reason. It was an exact implementation of the constitutional presidential prerogative, which is the right of mercy. Coupled with what can be said to have been written in textbooks for law students for decades, which young lawyers learn about criminal procedure, where there were two possible types of pardon - stated President Andrzej Duda at a press conference after his meeting with Marshal Szymon Hołownia.

- My position is unequivocal: the presidential prerogative was effectively exercised in 2015, and the gentlemen were effectively pardoned by the President of the Republic of Poland, and that definitively closed the matter. I have no doubt that Messrs. Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik today hold parliamentary mandates, which were granted to them by the citizens in the recent elections, and they have the right to exercise them. They therefore constitute part of the legislative branch of government, which is the Sejm - he added.

- I proposed to the Marshal of the Sejm that, in order to close this matter and avoid unrest, avoid further piling up of controversy and unnecessary state, social, and systemic anxieties on this issue, simply acknowledge today that the pardon from 2015 was and is effective - he continued.

- Our conversation with the Marshal proceeded in a calm atmosphere, observing all principles of political culture. We did not reach an agreement, we shook hands, and the Marshal will bear further decisions within the scope of his responsibilities related to his office - he concluded.


17:07

Morawiecki:

This is Exactly How Dictatorships Are Born

- Lawlessness in its purest form! This is exactly how dictatorships are born - wrote Mateusz Morawiecki on Twitter.


17:15

President Invites Kamiński and Wąsik to the Presidential Palace

- President Andrzej Duda has invited MPs Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik to the Presidential Palace tomorrow at 11 AM. The ceremony for appointing their close associates, Błażej Poboży and Stanisław Żaryn, as advisors to the President of the Republic of Poland will take place then - informed Marcin Mastalerek on Twitter.


18:12

Joński:

We want to determine who the mastermind was, because someone invented the postal ballots that never happened
- Tomorrow, we begin our first substantive day and we start with the pandemic. This is because we need to recall what happened in April 2020. Forests closed, schools, kindergartens, shops, and the government, in a haphazard manner, did everything to conduct the election, because they wanted to win the election – stated Dariusz Joński in a conversation with journalists. - We want to determine who is behind this, who is responsible for it, and who was also the mastermind, because someone invented these postal ballots that never took place, and it would be good to find out what is happening in this matter. So, the hysteria doesn't surprise me – added the chairman of the commission for postal ballots.

18:15

Joński:

Kaczyński Will Be Invited to the 'Envelope Elections' Committee as a Witness, It's Not a Distant Future
- There are already witnesses scheduled for the next perhaps 3 weeks, evidence requests have been sent, we are waiting, some are coming in, we are truly doing this at a very rapid and express pace […]. Jarosław Kaczyński will certainly be invited as a witness to the committee. Because I predict that this committee will not last for years, but months, then this is not a distant future – said Dariusz Joński in an interview with journalists.

18:28

Karnowski on Wąsik and Kamiński: These are truly bad people who used their positions to persecute political opponents

- These are truly bad people who used their positions and a pseudo anti-corruption service to persecute political opponents, and such people should face prison. I don't wish prison on anyone, but on these two gentlemen, yes - stated Jacek Karnowski in a conversation with Beata Lubecka on the "Gość Radia Zet" program.


18:33

Police:

Upon Receiving Orders to Bring in Kamiński and Wąsik, Police Will Undertake Legal Administrative Actions
- In response to numerous journalist inquiries, we inform that court orders instructing the Police to bring in M. Kamiński and M. Wąsik have not yet been received. Upon receipt of the relevant documents, the Police will undertake the administrative actions provided for by law - it was announced on the Twitter account of the Polish Police.

18:35

Karnowski on Wąsik and Kamiński: Bandits who wanted to cause the civil death of Deputy Prime Minister Lepper to gain power

- I hope, such bandits, who wanted to cause the civil death of the Deputy Prime Minister of their own government, Andrzej Lepper, to gain power. A bandit murders to gain money, they wanted the civil death of this man, and he eventually committed suicide too, because he probably couldn't mentally withstand all these things [Lepper]. Maybe they didn't do me such harm, but the Central Anticorruption Bureau of Mr. Wąsik and Kamiński falsified evidence in my case - stated Jacek Karnowski in the program “Gość Radia Zet”.


18:52

Karnowski on Interrogation Regarding Envelope Elections: Questions Will Certainly Arise About Who Was Behind These Elections and What Was Prime Minister Gowin's Stance

- Questions will certainly arise about who was behind these elections, and also about what Prime Minister Gowin's own stance was on these elections, why, in his opinion, they could not have taken place, and for what reasons. I think these questions will be repeated towards other witnesses - stated Jacek Karnowski in the program "Gość Radia Zet".


19:25

Wiącek:

The Constitution Clearly States that an MP Convicted by a Final Ruling for a Publicly Prosecutable Offense Loses Electoral Rights

- My conviction regarding the content of legal provisions is that the constitution is quite clear in this regard. The constitution clearly states that a person, an MP, or any person convicted by a final ruling for an offense prosecuted publicly, a person deprived of public rights by a final court ruling. Such a person does not have electoral rights, particularly the passive right to vote, meaning they are not an MP, and in light of this assumption, upon the issuance of a final criminal court ruling, the parliamentary mandates have expired. This is an effect that occurs by operation of law; it does not require a decision from any body – stated Marcin Wiącek on RMF FM.

- The Marshal of the Sejm has an obligation in such a situation, stemming from the Electoral Code, to confirm this fact with their decision, but I emphasize that this is a fact that occurred by operation of law – he added.


19:26

Wiącek:

The Right of Mercy Cannot Retroactively Eliminate a Verdict. The Right of Mercy is Not an Act of Rehabilitation

- It depends on the content of the act of mercy, as the content of the act of mercy can vary. Theoretically, the president can use the right of mercy in a way that pardons the sentence and causes so-called expungement of the conviction. In such a situation, the sentence is no longer executed, and the convicted person is removed from the National Criminal Register and no longer appears in this register as a convicted person, thus eliminating the consequences of the conviction. However, the right of mercy cannot retroactively eliminate that verdict. The right of mercy is not an act of rehabilitation – said Marcin Wiącek on RMF FM.


19:43

Paprocka:

Kamiński One of the Architects of Fighting Corruption in Poland. The Third Republic Thanks Him by Proposing Imprisonment.

- Today, all indicators, including European ones, show that corruption, this huge gangrene of economic and legal life in Poland, has been successfully combated, and without a doubt, Minister Kamiński is one of the architects of this success. And yet, the Third Republic thanks the minister by proposing an absolute prison sentence, contrary to the initiative related to the right of clemency, which was carried out in accordance with the Constitution - stated Małgorzata Paprocka on TV Republika.


19:51

Kierwiński:

As Soon As Police Receive Original Documents, They Will Immediately Apprehend Kamiński and Wąsik
- The police, as soon as they receive the relevant documents, the originals of these documents, will act and immediately bring both gentlemen [Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik] to detention. […] I hope the court will send these documents either today or tomorrow, so that the police can carry out their task – said Marcin Kierwiński in an interview with Bogdan Rymanowski on Polsat News's “Gość Wydarzeń”.

20:10

Kierwiński:

Kamiński and Wąsik are former MPs. They lost their mandates at the moment the final verdict was issued.
- These are former MPs [Maciej Wąsik and Mariusz Kamiński], because everything in this matter is clear. There is a final court verdict. At the moment this verdict was issued, both gentlemen lost their parliamentary mandates - said Marcin Kierwiński in "Gość Wydarzeń" on Polsat News. - In this matter, I am interested in the interpretation of Polish law. It is obvious, clear: both gentlemen are convicted, both gentlemen should answer for what they have done. And the fact that in the background we have a gigantic legal mess, to which PiS led, that we are dealing with the anarchization of public life and the destruction of the Polish constitution and Polish law for eight years - yes, that is a fact. And we will also deal with this, we will also settle accounts for this - he continued.

20:18

Kierwiński:

The President is Out of Touch with Basic Legal Principles. Regarding Wąsik and Kamiński, There's No Room for Interpretation, the Law Must Be Applied Literally
- What kind of legal formula is it to claim that the gentlemen have been pardoned? It seems to me that the President is perhaps a bit out of touch with a basic sense of law. In this matter, there is no room for interpretation; in this matter, the law must be applied literally - and that is what will be done, said Marcin Kierwiński on "Gość Wydarzeń" (Guest of Events) on Polsat News. - Since the President suggests acknowledging that his pardon [...] was effective, in other words, the President admits that the gentlemen are criminals. [...] If they have committed a crime, they cannot be Members of Parliament. In this matter, everything is clear. The President has gotten a bit lost in his own logic, he stated.

20:25

Śmiszek on inviting Wąsik and Kamiński to the Presidential Palace: It's a presidential provocation
- This [invitation of Wąsik and Kamiński to the Presidential Palace] is a clear provocation by the President, who knows that justice has been served. Justice has reached Mr. Wąsik, Mr. Kamiński, they have been convicted by final and unappealable verdicts, and the next step is for them to serve the sentence imposed by the courts - said Krzysztof Śmiszek in an interview with Monika Olejnik on "Kropka nad i" TVN24.

20:30

Śmiszek to Wójcik: There will be a demonstration on January 11th, no problem, we have freedom of assembly. There will be no situations you dream of, where blood is shed.
- There will be a demonstration on January 11th, as I understand it, there is no problem. In Poland, we have freedom of demonstration, freedom of assembly, no one will interfere with anyone [...]. There will be no situations you dream of, where suddenly, I don't know, blood is shed, batons are used. You dream of building your founding myth for your group - said Krzysztof Śmiszek on TVN24.

20:32

Kierwiński on PiS Protest: I Will Do Everything, and the Police Will Do Everything, to Ensure This Thursday is Peaceful
- Of course, yes [the police will secure the "protest of free Poles" on January 11th]. The police secure every demonstration, every registered gathering. This is natural. I smiled because I read that this PiS demonstration is in defense of freedom of speech. Meaning, freedom of speech will be defended by those who destroyed freedom of speech for eight years – said Marcin Kierwiński in "Gość Wydarzeń" on Polsat News. - I will do everything, and the police will do everything, to ensure this Thursday is peaceful – assured the head of the Ministry of Interior and Administration.

20:37

Śmiszek:

Warsaw Prisons Are Prepared to Receive Wąsik and Kamiński
- There is no other option, Warsaw prisons are prepared to receive Mr. Wąsik and Mr. Kamiński. There are two detention centers in Warsaw; one will be chosen, as far as I understand, the one closest to their place of residence, as per the regulations introduced by Law and Justice - Krzysztof Śmiszek said on TVN24, when asked if Wąsik and Kamiński would go to prison. - The entire sentence procedure will begin. A penitentiary commission will convene, and the conditions for serving the sentence will be established - he continued.

20:42

Wójcik:

Marshal Hołownia Sent a Messenger to the President of a Court He Acknowledges. He Chose His Own Court and Even Specific Judicial Panels.
- Imagine, if you will, that Mr. Marshal Hołownia decided to send his messenger to the president of a chamber [of the Supreme Court] which he acknowledges. He chose his own court, and what's more, according to the information he provided at the conference, he also wanted specific judicial panels, and this is a return to what used to be 'judges on call,' but today you choose your own courts – said Michał Wójcik on TVN24.

20:48

Wójcik:

Bodnar is the First Minister Since Stalinist Times Seeking Legal Basis for Unlawful Actions
- And Bodnar has already found a legal basis for an unlawful attack, or hasn't he? On public media. He is the first minister in history, since Stalinist times I believe, forgive me [...] who is looking for a legal basis for unlawful actions - Michał Wójcik said on TVN24.