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09/09/2024

07:40

Monday's Political Agenda: Hołownia at Conference of Heads of Foreign Missions, Morawiecki's Team Debates

At 9:30 AM, a press conference will be held by the Minister of Interior and Administration and coordinator of special services, Tomasz Siemoniak, and the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Digital Affairs, Krzysztof Gawkowski. The topic will be cybersecurity issues.

At 10:30 AM, the "Work for Poland" Team will hold a debate in the Sejm on Education, chaired by PiS MP and former Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki.

At 11:00 AM, President Andrzej Duda will present state decorations to medalists and coaches of the XXXIII Olympic Games Paris 2024 at the Presidential Palace.

At 4:30 PM, Sejm Marshal Szymon Hołownia will participate in a Conference of Heads of Foreign Missions.

At 5:00 PM, two parliamentary committees will issue opinions on the nominations of members to the State Commission for Combating the Sexual Exploitation of Minors under 15 years of age.


08:05

Żukowska on the Spot Featuring Dziemianowicz-Bąk:

There Was No Ban.
- A similar spot promoting a program concerning children's sports activities, promoted by Minister Nowacka and Minister Nitras, is the same kind of self-promotion – said Anna Maria Żukowska in "Poranek TOK FM" when asked about the Prime Minister's Chancellery prohibiting the broadcast of a spot promoting the "Active Parent" program with the participation of Agnieszka Dziemianowicz-Bąk.

- I don't think so, this seems to be a greatly exaggerated and publicized assessment; there was no ban, I think the minister and the prime minister have already clarified this – she continued.

- Various programs are best promoted with a face, when it comes to government programs [...]. I think there will be a discussion on this matter at the next government meeting, and that all ministries will adopt a uniform promotional standard for their various programs directed at society – she went on to say.

08:06

Błaszczak:

We've Raised About PLN 5 Million – But These Are Insufficient Donations
- I believe that 5 million is the amount that has flowed in. I haven't checked this morning, but I think it's very realistic. We are very encouraged by the reaction of PiS voters, we thank them very much for the transfers. These transfers are usually in amounts of several dozen zlotys, 100 zlotys. That's what we were aiming for - said Mariusz Błaszczak in an interview with Marcin Fijołek on Polsat News' "Graffiti". He emphasized, however: - These are insufficient donations. [...] This is because the loan that PiS has taken out for parliamentary, local government, and European elections amounts to 35 million zlotys, and the monthly functioning of PiS costs 2 million zlotys. So, we very much ask for support.

08:12

Żukowska on Work Towards Liberalizing Abortion Regulations:

We Will Combine Two Projects.
- The presidium of the said committee [...] unanimously decided that we are considering the projects in the order they were submitted. So this is not any malice or ill will, it's simply that the PSL's, Trzecia Droga's project, concerning the so-called restoration of the compromise, was submitted last of these projects, and therefore it will be considered last - said Anna Maria Żukowska on TOK FM. - We will combine our two projects, meaning the Left's project and the Civic Coalition's project concerning the legalization of the right to terminate a pregnancy. [...] We will combine these projects, so, I hope, one project concerning the legalization of the right to terminate a pregnancy will emerge from the committee with a positive recommendation, and this will be the next project to go to the Sejm - she continued.

08:17

Żukowska on Proposed Judicial Reforms:

The Important Thing is There's No Collective Responsibility.
- I assess [the proposals for judicial changes] well, Minister Bodnar consulted them with me, with Speaker Czarzasty. For us, the important thing is precisely that there is no collective responsibility here - said Anna Maria Żukowska on TOK FM. - We are not dismissing them, they remain judges [...] however, we are annulling promotions - she continued.

08:21

Błaszczak on Mastalerek:

He's Talking Nonsense, He Joined Tusk's Camp.
- He himself announces [Marcin Mastalerek] that he will not contribute. Did he contribute before? Well, he didn't. This is just talk. […] I believe that in these times, when there is an attempt to destroy democracy – because that is how I view what Donald Tusk is doing – these kinds of statements do not serve unity, they serve division, said Mariusz Błaszczak on Polsat News's "Graffiti". Błaszczak was referring to the words of the head of the President of the Republic of Poland's Chancellery, who stated that PiS should have saved more money after 8 years in power. - Mastalerek joined Tusk's camp. If he's talking such nonsense, what does he want? What is this man after? he asked.

08:32

Błaszczak:

Instead of CPK, Tusk Proposed Nuremberg for Reckoning. Is this man mentally sound?
- We are witnessing unprecedented actions. Namely, in the Prime Minister's Office, a part of the judiciary – a part that favors Donald Tusk and the December 13 coalition – is meeting and deciding on a plan to take over the judiciary. What is this? Does it have anything to do with democracy? Democracy exists when there is an opposition. They are trying to annihilate the opposition – said Mariusz Błaszczak in "Graffiti" on Polsat News. "Instead of CPK, because it is competitive with German airports, he proposed Nuremberg for reckoning" When asked about the expected turnout for PiS at the announced Saturday protest, he replied: - All those who disagree with the scoundrelness we are dealing with in our country. [...] In my opinion, the goal is to pacify Poland, to pacify Poles, to bring about a situation where Poles are to be suppliers of cheap labor. - Donald Tusk proposed Nuremberg instead of CPK. One can put it that way. Instead of CPK, because it is competitive with German airports, he proposed Nuremberg for reckoning. This is one big scandal. Does this man know what he is saying? Is he mentally sound? – he stated.

08:35

Bodnar on Meeting with Representatives of Legal Circles:

It Was a Demonstration of a Slightly Different Standard.

- I think that in one of his statements, the Prime Minister announced that he has as much time as needed, and I think this was a demonstration of a slightly different standard, that if there's an important topic to discuss, then one simply needs to allocate enough time for it so that we all feel that the topic, I won't say it was exhausted, because work will likely continue, but that the voice of the legal circles has indeed been heard - stated Adam Bodnar on TVP Info.


08:36

Will PiS Nominate Someone Other Than Witek for Sejm Deputy Marshal? Błaszczak Declares
- We will ask, as a form of self-criticism: and whom will they allow us to choose for the Sejm Presidium? I'm joking, of course. Our candidate is Marshal Elżbieta Witek - Mariusz Błaszczak said in 'Graffiti' on Polsat News. - Why should we change our minds? Why should we yield to those who do not respect the rules, who break the constitution, who break the laws? [...] We do not yield, we do not give up - he stated.

08:43

Błaszczak on the Cancellation of the Przystań Polska Event:

We Don't Have the Money.
- This is a consequence of the problems stemming from the attack on PiS. To put it bluntly – yes [we don't have the money] - said Mariusz Błaszczak on Polsat News's 'Graffiti,' when asked about the cancellation of the Przystań Polska event, which was intended to be PiS's response to Rafał Trzaskowski's Campus Polska Przyszłości. - It's a postponement. Until we are ready to carry out such an undertaking, and it won't be a party undertaking, a PiS undertaking. For example, the EKR, the European Conservatives and Reformers Party [would provide the funding for it] - he continued.

08:57

Błaszczak on the Independence March:

This is not a Konfederacja party march
- The organizers [of the Independence March] have some political approach, of course, there is no doubt about that. […] This is not a Konfederacja party march, it is a march of Polish patriots. That is why we will participate in this march to show that we do not agree to the pacification of Polish society – said Mariusz Błaszczak on Polsat News’ “Graffiti”. - We are now dealing with an attempted coup on democracy. […] This is a march of Polish patriots, we are Polish patriots. And the fact that there is an attempt to appropriate an important event only reflects poorly on those who are trying to appropriate it, especially in a situation where Polish patriots are being attacked – he continued.

09:01

Bodnar on counter-signature:

It is possible to self-correct a previously made decision.

- It is true that a complaint has been filed with the Administrative Court regarding the decision to appoint Mr. Wesołowski to the position of chairman of the assembly that is to elect the new President of the Civil Chamber of the Supreme Court, and it is also true that there is a possibility of such self-control, of self-correction of a previously made decision. We will see what decision the Prime Minister makes in this regard - stated Adam Bodnar in TVP Info.


09:09

Will PiS Change Candidate If Polls Are Poor? Błaszczak: I Hope Life Doesn't Present Us With Such a Challenge

– Do you rule out a scenario where you nominate a candidate, say in October, and then replace them in January because of poor poll numbers? – asked Marcin Fijołek on Polsat News' "Graffiti".

– We are convinced that the PiS candidate will be a candidate with a chance to win. […] We are conducting analyses. It will be a candidate who will give us a chance of victory – replied Mariusz Błaszczak.

– And no replacement in January, February, or March? Once you decide in the autumn, that's final? – the host pressed.

– Life brings challenges. But I hope that life will not bring us such a challenge, that such a challenge will not face us – stated the head of the PiS parliamentary club.


10:28

Bosak on Presidential Elections:

Confederation Needs One Candidate, Not Several

- I was ready to compete; if there had been primaries, I would have competed in those primaries and the voters would have indicated who won. We were not able to reach an agreement on holding primaries. I supported Sławomir Mentzen because the Confederation needs one candidate in the presidential elections, not several, not a public dispute on this matter - stated Krzysztof Bosak in an interview with Jacek Prusinowski on Radio Plus.

- If we were unable to organize primaries, one person should have been designated to compete. Sławomir Mentzen was prepared for this campaign; he had been planning to participate in this campaign for a long time. Unlike me and Grzegorz Braun, he has not yet run in presidential elections. He wants to try this competition. I am ready to give him my support so he can test his strength - he continued.


10:29

Bosak:

These Are Not Matters for Politicians, the Independence March is a Social Event

- These are not matters for politicians, the Independence March is a social event, headed by the Independence March association. I stepped down from the board of the MN association several years ago, about 5 years ago - stated Krzysztof Bosak on Radio Plus.

- If I am invited, or someone else from our party, we will gladly accept such an invitation, however, I do not consider it the most important thing on that day. I have been to many Independence Marches, without speaking, just like an ordinary participant, and I feel best in that role, to be honest, on that day, November 11th, during the demonstration - he continued.


10:30

Bosak:

PiS stretched the law like rubber, and the current coalition completely disregards it
PiS stretched the law like rubber, and the current coalition, the Minister of Justice, completely disregards the law now, confusing their political assessments with the law. We have statutes, we have the Constitution. If they want the rule of law, they should adhere to it - stated Krzysztof Bosak on Radio Plus. These proposals from Prime Minister Tusk and Minister Bodnar have the potential to do only one thing - that is, introduce even greater chaos in the state and judiciary, generate conflict regarding innocent people who have completed judicial apprenticeships, entered the judicial profession, and are ruling. This procedure of verifying judges is already very dangerous, and what has been proposed here is a real nightmare - he continued.

10:58

"Anti-Copernican Revolution": Morawiecki on Banning Homework
- The current government is banning homework, that's the idea from a few months ago, which I am strongly trying to oppose, because I believe that independent homework, independent work at home, is what makes our young masters even better students after training, after commitment, it makes them individuals better prepared, or as best prepared as possible, for entering adult life, for professional life - said Mateusz Morawiecki during the "Work for Poland" Team's debate on education. - Flattering, probably above all, various populist demands, the current government has carried out a revolution here, an anti-revolution, an anti-Copernican one, one could say, meaning something that could lead our educational system to a decline in its quality, a decline in the quality of education - he continued.

10:59

Siemoniak:

Information Provided to Rubcow Has No Impact on Poland's National Security
- This agreement [SKW-FSB] is not in force. Any suspect in Poland facing charges has access to the files concerning them, and so does their legal representative. This simply stems from the Code of Criminal Procedure - stated Tomasz Siemoniak at a press conference. - The Republic is a state of law, where suspected criminals, spies, those suspected of murder and various other offenses have access to the relevant files, because we guarantee the right to a fair trial - he continued. - The prosecution has clarified [the matter of making files available to Paweł Rubcow] and I have no grounds not to share this assessment by the prosecution. Information was provided that has no impact on Poland's national security, and concerned that specific individual and the evidence gathered - he emphasized.

11:55

Morawiecki on the Consequences of Not Assigning Homework:

Isn't the question who will be working for whom?
- We will all compete, as a nation, as a state, as a society, with Koreans, Americans, Germans, French, Finns, Chinese, and it's worth asking ourselves this question: in those systems, are governments also taking the easy way out, seeking applause, and avoiding assigning homework? - said Mateusz Morawiecki during a debate of the Work for Poland Team on education.

- Isn't it by chance a question of who will be working for whom? Will Koreans work for Poles, or will Poles work for Germans, Koreans, Japanese, etc.? Because I want a Polish student, a graduate, to be creative, capable enough to create added value in the economy [...] so that Germans, Austrians, Dutch work for them, and not the other way around, as it has been for the last 300 or 300-plus years - he continued.

11:59

Morawiecki:

Shouldn't Poland Aim to Limit Smartphone Use in Schools?
- In short, shouldn't Poland, following the example of France, following some Scandinavian countries, I know there's a discussion in the US Congress [...] shouldn't it aim to limit the use of smartphones, at least in schools? I know that in some countries, also very mature ones, also those economically more developed than Poland, there's a discussion about whether smartphones in schools are a good idea at all - said Mateusz Morawiecki during the Team for Work for Poland debate on education.

14:12

Konfederacja Calls for Bodnar's Resignation:

He Doesn't Love Poland, He Doesn't Respect the Nation.
- Mr. Minister, we call for your resignation. Truly, all these events we are witnessing, all these declarations, they form a single picture: an inability to constructively fulfill this office. Regardless of whether we look at counterintelligence protection procedures [...] or at sensitive political matters related to freedom of assembly [...], or at the perspectives of the so-called restoration of the rule of law [...] in each of these, there are errors and a lack of any constructive plan - said Krzysztof Bosak at a press conference. - What the prosecutor subordinate to Minister Bodnar is doing is a complete comedy. He is searching for a non-existent list of names and has decided to search the apartments of randomly selected people associated with the authorities of the Independence March association and its offices [...] in order to locate supposedly existing membership lists of the Independence March Guard from 2018. Mr. Prosecutor, such lists never existed - he continued. "Doing Exactly What PiS Did, Only on a Larger Scale" - The most recent matter, perhaps the biggest in scale, is the unfortunate announcements from Friday that there will be some verification of judges, called [...] neo-judges. This is doing exactly what PiS did, only on an even larger scale. PiS [...] led to the delegitimization of the National Council of the Judiciary, part of the Supreme Court, and the Constitutional Tribunal. Currently, Minister Bodnar is aiming to delegitimize several hundred more judges - Bosak continued. - If you cannot find an agreement, if you don't even look for one, then resign, vacate the minister of justice chair, let someone else from your camp come in, perhaps they will cope with these challenges a bit better - he added. "A Man Who Simply Doesn't Love Poland" - This is a man who simply doesn't love Poland, simply dislikes Poland, simply doesn't respect the Polish nation, and we expect constitutional ministers of the Polish government to also meet these highest standards - said Grzegorz Braun.

14:46

Tusk:

I've Decided to Rescind the Counter-Signature

- Based on the complaint of the judges of the Civil Chamber of the Supreme Court, I have decided to rescind the counter-signature - wrote Prime Minister Donald Tusk on Twitter.


15:05

PiS Files Complaint with Supreme Court: Kaczyński Claims PKW Decision "In Complete Contradiction to the Law"
Today, a complaint was filed with the Supreme Court regarding the PKW's decision, which deprives us of a very significant portion of both subsidies and grants. This decision was made, as extensively proven in the complaint, in complete contradiction to the law. Simultaneously, and independently of this contradiction with the law, it is also in contradiction with certain broader, obvious legal principles stemming from the Constitution. That is to say, the principle of equal treatment of identical entities – stated Jarosław Kaczyński at a PiS press conference.

15:10

Kaczyński:

Post-Communism Returns in a Sharpened Form

- Of course, this government does not abide by the law. One could say that without undertaking any formal act, it has effectively repealed the Constitution, and consequently, because the entire system stems from the Constitution, legislation and perhaps decisions made by the Supreme Court will also fit into this whole undertaking. It's a kind of revolution or counter-revolution, restoring what we did not accept, what was rejected during our governments, namely post-communism. At the moment, it is returning in a sharpened form, and this is one of the manifestations of this return - stated Jarosław Kaczyński at a PiS press conference.


15:13

Kaczyński:

The fundraising is still necessary

- I would like to convey a certain appeal to our supporters. I must thank you for the truly great sacrifice shown during these few days of fundraising, but I must say that the fundraising is still necessary, because even if the law were to be observed regarding the subsidy, and it were only taken from us in part, the losses are still so serious, or would be so serious, that they would need to be replenished - stated Jarosław Kaczyński at a PiS press conference.


15:16

Kaczyński on Tusk's Decision Regarding Counter-signature:

Another Act of Lawbreaking.
- In such matters, there is no coincidence. There is no legal procedure that allows for the withdrawal of a counter-signature. This is further proof of what – to use a very mild word – could be described as legal voluntarism. But in reality, it is simply another act of lawbreaking – stated Jarosław Kaczyński at a PiS press conference. - In reality, it is simply another act of lawbreaking and another act that points to a very far-reaching unease. […] This unease is very clear in various absurd pronouncements by Tusk, and I believe it is justified – he continued.

15:26

Kaczyński on the Fundraiser:

We Expect the Losses We Incur Will Be Made Up Somehow.

- It's hard to say what amount [will be raised from the fundraiser]. For now, the daily yield is very high, but it usually drops a bit over time. So we expect that the losses we incur will be made up somehow, and that it will be possible to conduct normal political activities, and above all, which is currently the focus of interest, to conduct an election campaign in the full sense of the word - stated Jarosław Kaczyński at a PiS press conference.


15:30

Kaczyński:

Mastalerek Was Twice Expelled from the Party by Me. It's Not Worth Taking His Statements About Us Seriously

- Mr. Mastalerek, I repeat, I've said this in this chamber before, was expelled from the party by me twice. Once he was forgiven, after self-criticism, but in that case it was justified, not like the kind Tusk and his cronies demand right now. But the second time there was no forgiveness, and it's not worth taking his statements about us seriously at all - stated Jarosław Kaczyński at a PiS press conference.


15:34

Kaczyński Asked About Czarnecki:

The Problem Exists and Certainly Needs to Be Clarified.
- Regarding Ryszard Czarnecki – once the relevant judgments are made, we will, of course, have to draw conclusions from them, just as we always do in such cases. However, there are no judgments yet, for now, there is a cartoon in “Gazeta Wyborcza” – stated Jarosław Kaczyński at a PiS press conference. - Over these 30-odd years […] significant experience has accumulated, which dictates a very deep skepticism – and increasingly radical – towards what “Gazeta Wyborcza” does. But of course, the problem exists, and this problem certainly needs to be resolved and clarified – he admitted.

18:06

Nawrocki asked about running for president:

I am ready to serve Poland.
It's not a matter of my ambition, but I have been ready to serve Poland for practically 20 years. It's a matter of responsibility for Poland, not my ambition or decision whether I want to run or not. I am very happy at the IPN because I serve Poland here - stated Karol Nawrocki on RMF FM. - I am consciously on the list of potential candidates [for president]. The position of the head of the IPN requires meetings with the most important politicians from various political backgrounds, so such conversations are taking place - he continued. - I am ready to serve Poland and after many years of work in important positions of the Polish state, also in international contexts, national memory, I feel ready for it - he emphasized.

19:55

Czarzasty on Building Rental Housing:

Legislative Matters Are Settled, We're Only Discussing Finances.
- I had a very good meeting with the Minister of Finance, Andrzej Domański. We discussed the issue of building affordable rental housing. For the years 2023 and 2024, there are unrealized applications for building affordable rental housing, which amounts to a total subsidy of 3.5 billion PLN. We are very close to resolving this matter - said Włodzimierz Czarzasty on TVN24's "Fakty po Faktach" (Facts after Facts). - Regarding the 0% mortgage [...] the most important thing is to see the project related to this matter. [...] I haven't seen this project; it's not on the table yet. Therefore, when the project is presented, then we in Lewica will respond to it reasonably. Our stance on this issue has been unchanging for many years - he continued. - When it comes to building affordable rental housing, all legislative matters are tied up and settled. We are only discussing the financial resources. [...] Minister Domański is managing this with great skill - he added.

20:02

Czarzasty on Tusk and Withdrawing the Counter-Signature:

He Made a Mistake, He's Looking for a Solution. He Made the Right Decision.
- The Prime Minister, one of the four leaders of this coalition, made a mistake by signing... I'm not specifying the reasons for the event, a mistake was made. The Prime Minister is a very sensible person, and therefore he is looking for a solution. That solution, as I understand it, is to withdraw the counter-signature. I understand that if at that time, due to one official or another [...] a mistake was made, then now, what the Prime Minister has done has certainly been, I believe, consulted with a huge number of wise, sensible lawyers, and he has made the right decision - Włodzimierz Czarzasty said on TVN24, when asked about Prime Minister Donald Tusk withdrawing the counter-signature.

20:03

Bodnar on Counter-Signature Annulment:

I'm Not Convinced by Professor Zoll's Opinion.

- I am not convinced by the accuracy of Professor Zoll's opinion, with all due respect to everything the professor has done and is doing, because we have a situation here that is a bit different, I would say, processually or procedurally. Specifically, a complaint has been filed with the administrative courts by two judges in the meantime, and if a complaint is filed, the authority making a specific decision can, under the provisions of administrative court proceedings law, make a kind of self-correction of its own decision - stated Adam Bodnar on TVN24's "Kropka nad i".


20:06

Olejnik to Bodnar: Tusk's Strange Move

- The Prime Minister has stunned constitutionalists with such a strange move, namely withdrawing his signature from the countersignature, a signature he himself affixed just a few days ago - Monika Olejnik said to Adam Bodnar on TVN24's "Kropka nad i".


20:07

Bodnar on the Revocation of Countersignature:

The Prime Minister Absolutely Had a Legal Basis.

- I believe that in this case, the Prime Minister absolutely had a legal basis to make such a decision, and I would add one more thing: to protect against the election of the President of the Civil Chamber happening in the coming days - stated Adam Bodnar on TVN24's "Kropka nad i" program.


20:07

Czarzasty on Czarnecki:

If the court convicts him, it will turn out he is a simple, primitive thief.
- This is such great foolishness, such great arrogance, that when I imagine it for several days, if I were to worry about it, I wouldn't be able to sleep. If the prosecution has brought these charges, if the court proves it, it will turn out that Czarnecki is a thief - said Włodzimierz Czarzasty on TVN24 when asked about Ryszard Czarnecki and the so-called "kilometer allowance" case. - He will not escape punishment, he should return the money, he probably won't return it [...]. This is theft, this is all the worst [...] if the court convicts him, it will simply turn out that he is a simple, primitive wheeler-dealer and thief - he continued.

20:35

"Corporate Crimes": Minister of State Assets on Audits in State Treasury Companies
- We are currently conducting analyses, we have conducted analyses of supervisory boards and management boards. We have replaced approximately 98% of this key management personnel in key companies. Now, the management boards are conducting audits, the results of which will be published soon. Indeed, as we look at the initial media reports, these results seem staggering - said Jakub Jaworowski in an interview with Justyna Dobrosz-Oracz on TVP Info's "Question of the Day". - Of course, when I think about the famous 20,000 zloty Botox, yes, that is certainly reprehensible and probably very media-worthy. But for me, perhaps even more important are issues that, in a slight quotation mark, I would call corporate crimes. These are issues, for example, of large, billion-zloty investments that, even at the moment of their decision-making, were, to put it mildly, misguided. The best example is, of course, the investment in Ostrołęka, the famous two towers - he continued. - There are several dozen such [prosecutorial] reports. It seems to me that after the audits are announced, there will be even more - stated the Minister of State Assets.

20:46

Jaworowski:

Phones Requesting State Treasury Company Board Positions Do Occur
- All [recruitment] processes that we conduct, we conduct them as professionally as possible. We also try to involve so-called headhunting firms in these processes, meaning professional companies that specialize in engaging professional managers. Here we have an absolutely clear conscience that we are engaging the best possible managers - said Jakub Jaworowski in "Pytanie dnia" (Question of the Day) on TVP Info. When asked if phones from politicians requesting positions on the boards of State Treasury companies occur, the head of MAP responded: - Such calls do happen, but that is precisely my role, which consists of filtering them out, disregarding them, and moving forward.

21:04

Withdrawal from the Orlen and Lotos Merger? Jaworowski: In Principle Impossible
- Much indicates, and there was even a court ruling, I believe in May, that suggests that in principle it is impossible at this moment [to withdraw from the Orlen and Lotos merger] - said Jakub Jaworowski on TVP Info's "Question of the Day". - One must consider and always assess the business situation and transactions. However, based on the information we have today, it seems it would be extremely difficult - he added.

21:08

Jaworowski:

No Privatization Plans for State Treasury Companies
- There are no privatization plans. However, we must also remember that there is no country in the world that has built prosperity on the basis of a state-owned economy. We have already tried that in Poland, it didn't work and it happily belongs to the past. So I wouldn't demonize private capital either - said Jakub Jaworowski in "Question of the Day" on TVP Info. - They [PiS] can read interviews as well as they manage companies. I didn't say anything like that [that I plan to sell banks]. In fact, I said something completely the opposite: that capital has a nationality and, specifically in the banking sector, the role of the state is crucial - so that in the event of some crisis, decision-making centers are in Poland - he emphasized.