Horała on IVF: I Have an Ethical Concern Regarding Freezing and Discarding Embryos. Gawkowski: And How Many Sperm Have You Killed in Your Life?

21/11/2023

21:02

Michał Lubowicki

- I need to familiarize myself with the specific shape of the bill [on IVF reimbursement]. I have one concern, of an ethical nature. Do so-called surplus embryos arise within the IVF procedure? That is, are new human beings artificially cultivated, who are then placed in a freezer and – forgive me, because these are very harsh words, but such is the fact in this sensitive matter – are later discarded, disposed of? If this were not an element of the IVF procedure, then I would have no problem with it - said Marcin Horała on TVN24’s “Kropka nad i”. - Every human being has equal, innate dignity of a human person – including those IVF children who are kept as embryos in a freezer. And that does not suit me - he added. - The new coalition [...] is submitting its first bill. And this is a bill about happiness. It is not about settling scores, about the past. It is about the future, about people's right to happiness. There are tens of thousands of couples in Poland who do not have the money to have a child because they cannot afford IVF. You blocked this 8 years ago, you did not listen to society, which came and submitted a citizens' initiative, with several hundred thousand signatures - said Krzysztof Gawkowski in turn. The Deputy Chairman of Nowa Lewica referred to Horała's words and asked him: - When I hear about freezing embryos, I wanted to ask – Mr. Minister, how many sperm have you killed in your life? - I don't know what you're talking about - replied the PiS politician. - Did you kill sperm, or not? - Gawkowski pressed. - I didn't kill any sperm, what nonsense are you talking about? - asked the deputy minister. - You are talking about embryos, and in reality, you are talking about people not being able to have the right to children. This is a scandal, it is sad and terrible - Gawkowski replied.

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