No one will put pressure on the President regarding when to sign or not sign.
- Nawrocki on SAFE
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01/28/2020
07:20
The Vice-President of the European Commission will be visiting Warsaw today. Vera Jourová will meet with the Marshal of the Sejm, Elżbieta Witek, at 9:00 AM, with the Marshal of the Senate, Tomasz Grodzki, at 9:40 AM, and with the Ombudsman, Adam Bodnar, at 10:20 AM. Meetings are also scheduled with the Minister of Justice, Zbigniew Ziobro, the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, Paweł Jabłoński, and the President of the Constitutional Tribunal, Julia Przyłębska.
The Speaker of the Lithuanian Seimas will also visit the Polish parliament. At 10:00 AM, he will hold talks with Marshal Elżbieta Witek, and at 11:00 AM, with Marshal Tomasz Grodzki. The Speaker of the second chamber of the parliament will also meet with the Apostolic Nuncio (at 11:40 AM) and the diplomatic corps (at 12:00 PM).
At 1:00 PM, Marshal Elżbieta Witek will deliver a statement on the 80th anniversary of the Katyn Massacre. Among the attendees at the meeting will be the Minister of the Interior and Administration, Mariusz Kamiński, the Minister of National Defence, Mariusz Błaszczak, the Minister of National Education, Dariusz Piontkowski, and the President of the Institute of National Remembrance, Jarosław Szarek. At 3:30 PM, President Andrzej Duda will meet with the Prime Minister of Luxembourg. Earlier, at 11:00 AM, he will, together with the President of Austria, open the General Consulate of the Republic in Krakow.
Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki will continue his visit to the Federal Republic of Germany. In the German capital, he will have a working breakfast with Chancellor Angela Merkel at 8:30 AM. Also today, a four-day session of the National Council of the Judiciary will commence, focusing on evaluating further candidates for judges of the Disciplinary Chamber of the Supreme Court.
Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz will be visiting the Pomeranian Voivodeship. The leader of the Polish People's Party (PSL) will meet with seniors in Słupsk at 10:00 AM, followed by a press conference at 11:15 AM. At 1:30 PM, he will visit the Drutex production plant in Bytów, with a press conference at 2:15 PM. At 3:30 PM, he will meet with local government officials in Miastko, and at 5:30 PM, with residents of the Człuchów County.
07:30
- I disagree with Prime Minister Gowin. These changes are necessary. We need to have even greater determination and be even more firm. I hear such voices, I meet with residents, with Poles - said Stanisław Karczewski in an interview with Piotr Goćka on Polskie Radio Jedynka's "Sygnały dnia" program.
07:36
07:55
Fogiel:
The Supreme Court, Through its Rulings, Has Begun to Encroach on Legislative Matters
07:57
Fogiel:
I See a Desire for the Judiciary to Remain Beyond Control and Accountability
- It is not without reason that the disciplinary structures are the main target of attacks. This is precisely an element of this reform, and I unfortunately see a desire for the judicial community to remain beyond control and beyond any accountability - stated Radosław Fogiel in an interview with Konrad Piasecki on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego".
08:03
Fogiel:
In Our Opinion, There Is a Competence Dispute
- In our opinion, there is a competence dispute, and why do we negate the very essence of this resolution? Because, according to the regulation on proceedings before the Constitutional Tribunal, all other proceedings should be suspended. Within the scope of this suspension, this resolution [by the Supreme Court] should not have been adopted at all – stated Radosław Fogiel in an interview with Konrad Piasecki on TVN24's "Piasecki's Conversation".
08:11
Fogiel:
Perhaps Jourová will show greater understanding of the reform's essence and accept Poland's arguments that the judiciary is not within the EU's competence
- As far as I know, [Commissioner Jourová] is meeting with Marshal Witek and representatives of the Ministry of Justice. We are not boycotting any body. Because the formula for Commissioner Jourová's visit is different from the formula for the members of the Venice Commission. Commissioner Jourová is here at the invitation of the Polish government; this is an official visit. I hope that a basis for compromise can be built, perhaps in such a way that Commissioner Jourová, in conversation, in dialogue, will perhaps show greater understanding of the essence of the [justice system] reform and will accept Poland's arguments that the judiciary does not fall within the EU's competence. If she does not accept them, we will strive to continue this dialogue and explain our reasoning to the best of our ability – stated Radosław Fogiel in an interview with Konrad Piasecki on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego".
08:24
08:38
Gowin:
Draft Amendment to the Act This Week. The Spirit of Freedom in Lectures and Research Should Guide All University Actions
08:45
Gowin:
Judicial Reform Impossible Without Broad Judge Support
- If you ask me in which direction we should seek solutions, I still say dialogue. It is impossible to permanently reform the justice system if solutions are introduced that are actively opposed by ninety-something percent of common court judges. I believe those are the proportions. This does not mean we should engage in poorly conceived compromises. The justice system must be reformed, but I am counting heavily on the fact that after the President, I believe, signs this amendment, the time for dialogue will come - said Jarosław Gowin in an interview with Paweł Lisicki on Polskie Radio Trójka's "Political Salon".
08:47
08:52
Budka:
I'd be offended if someone with any achievements compared me to Gomułka. Besides creating San Escobar, Waszczykowski is known for being an exceptionally ineffective politician
“This is precisely the level of a former Minister of Foreign Affairs. When one lacks substantive arguments, resorting to such comparisons [to Gomułka] is something I don't wish to comment on. I would prefer Minister Waszczykowski not to stoop to such a level, but it only speaks volumes about him. I am not offended. I would be offended if this were said by a person who has any successes or achievements in politics, but besides creating the country of San Escobar, Mr. Waszczykowski is known for being an exceptionally ineffective politician when it comes to the international arena” – stated the President-elect of Civic Platform, Borys Budka, in an interview with Beata Lubecka on Radio Zet.
08:55
Budka:
I Know How Much Our Party Needs a Strong General Secretariat. Kierwiński is Being Seriously Considered by Me
„We need very effective management of our structures. There is a lot to be done here. I have been to every region during the internal election campaign, and before that too, and I know how much our party needs a strong general secretariat. Marcin Kierwiński is being seriously considered by me. I have seen how effectively he manages structures in Warsaw, how it is done” – said the President-elect of Civic Platform, Borys Budka, in an interview with Beata Lubecka on Radio Zet.
09:37
Jourová:
I Want to Open a New Chapter of Dialogue Between Polish Authorities and the European Commission
„I want to open a new chapter of dialogue between the Polish authorities and the European Commission. I have high expectations that I will better understand the situation in Poland. I see this as a good start to opening a dialogue in search of long-term solutions” - said the Vice-President of the European Commission, Vera Jourová, before her meeting with the Marshal of the Sejm.
10:11
Nitras:
Marshal Witek Continues to Delay Announcing Presidential Elections. Is PiS Seriously Considering Changing its Candidate?
Sławomir Nitras suggested on Twitter that the delay in the formal announcement of the presidential elections by the Marshal of the Sejm might stem from PiS's plans to replace its presidential candidate.
https://twitter.com/SlawomirNitras/status/1222076928330555393
10:58
Wójcik:
Supreme Court Resolution Allows Corrupt Judges, Including Drunk Driver, Back to Profession
- We have truly begun the fight against VAT mafias. I would like to remind you that it was the Ministry of Justice that initiated the project concerning the prohibition of VAT fraud and accountability, imposing the highest penalty in Europe: 25 years of imprisonment. Often, pensioners and recipients of disability benefits ask us where the money for social programs comes from, such as the 13th pension, the 13th benefit. I want to tell you that, among other sources, it comes from our success in acquiring these funds from gangsters, from those in organized criminal groups who have been robbing us for years. I want to remind you that tens of billions of zlotys have flowed into the state budget thanks to the functioning of this very law. I also want to recall the law on pharmaceutical mafias, the so-called reversed supply chain. It was the opposition, and Borys Budka, now the new leader of Civic Platform, should answer for this, who, a few months before we took power, changed the regulations to combat pharmaceutical mafias using administrative penalties. They laughed about it; for them, it was an eldorado, one might say, for years, thanks to these changes, this gift they received from our predecessors, from the opposition. We changed the regulations, and today I want to say that it is yielding results. Medicines are finally reaching pensioners, recipients of disability benefits, and people in need. There is a ban on the reversed supply chain; medicine no longer travels from pharmacies to wholesalers and abroad, but from wholesalers to pharmacies and to the person in need - stated Michał Wójcik at a briefing in Katowice.
- We have implemented many changes, but there is also an extremely significant one concerning the Supreme Court, common courts, and disciplinary proceedings. This is what we truly promised 4 years ago: that we would be reforming the justice system, including disciplinary proceedings. Consider situations that everyone can observe and which inspire dread, for example, the case of 50 zlotys taken at a gas station, where a judge who took those 50 zlotys was not convicted. Each of you, because there are many journalists here, would have been convicted, I would have been convicted, everyone standing behind me would have been convicted. The judge was acquitted because he did it absent-mindedly. This greatly pains society. I want to say that there are many such situations. These are not isolated incidents. The opposition claims they are isolated cases when judges commit unworthy acts, but we already know that in 2019 alone, there were 260 disciplinary proceedings. Before this court for judges primarily, but also for other legal professions. This concerns the Disciplinary Chamber of the Supreme Court. What hurts most those who today talk about the gag law is that they do not want this chamber, this court. This is not a court for the state; it is a court for judges. And there were 90 such proceedings involving judges. Due to a Supreme Court resolution passed a few days ago, a judge who was caught with 2 per mille of alcohol in her blood and is now able to return to the profession, according to this resolution. A judge who hid abroad, accepted a 200,000 zloty bribe and 4 cars, and hid from the Polish justice system will likely be able to return to the profession, but the Supreme Court adopted a resolution that effectively renders all rulings of the Disciplinary Chamber, and thus this one too, as non-existent, as essentially invalid - continued the Deputy Minister of Justice.
11:04
Wójcik:
This is not a gag law. It's a gag removed from society. For the first time in 30 years, we are successfully carrying out thorough justice reforms.
- What is happening today in the media, in the public sphere, in discourse, is an attempt at manipulation. This is not a gag law that the Sejm and Senate pushed through; it has essentially gone through the entire legislative process. It is a gag removed from society. For the first time in 30 years, we are successfully carrying out thorough justice reforms. If today someone accuses us of protracted proceedings and asks what we have done, we must pose a question to these judicial assemblies of appellate and district courts, which have blocked over 770 people, young individuals who should have joined the judiciary. They simply decided not to opine on these candidates. In a situation where there are 15% more cases year to year, around 16 million cases, should these people be ruling today, and yet they have been blocked. Please ask the judicial community why they did this. I don't want to say that the entire judicial community is truly saturated with pathology, because that is not true. There are many very honest judges who diligently perform their work, who are not politicians, celebrity judges; they do what they were called to do. They perform their duties, their mission on behalf of the entire Republic of Poland, all of us, and we want such judges, good judges, those who understand what justice is, not judges who lack impartiality, who, for example, protest alongside individuals whom they then adjudicate. This is unacceptable – stated Michał Wójcik at a briefing in Katowice.
11:08
- Commissioner Jourová has arrived, and various meetings will take place today; they have been ongoing since this morning. There will also be a meeting with the Minister of Justice, the Prosecutor General, one of the most important today. I think this is an excellent opportunity to present our case, our arguments, to truly show what this law is about, that it is not some muzzle law, but rather a concretization of all matters that are already in the law today. It cannot be the case that a judge undermines the status of another judge, because undermining the status of another judge means undermining all of us, the entire nation, because when the President signs an appointment act, he does not sign it as Andrzej Duda, President of the Republic of Poland, but signs the appointment act on behalf of all of us, the nation, therefore, it must not be done, and this is included, among other things, in this document - stated Michał Wójcik at a briefing in Katowice.
11:10
Wójcik:
What the Supreme Court did is incomprehensible. In our opinion, this resolution is void and can be very surprising, for example, it adopted the statute of a judge who does not adjudicate.
- What the Supreme Court did is incomprehensible, just a few days ago. In our opinion, this resolution is void and can be very surprising, for example, it adopted the statute of a judge who does not adjudicate. I don't know if you know. There will be judges who are judges, they come to court, take money, but do not adjudicate. Well, each of us would want such a job, journalists and us and everyone. To simply take money for nothing until retirement, and this follows from this resolution - stated Michał Wójcik at a briefing in Katowice.
11:17
„The Commissioner said that an international body will be established, with one representative from each country, which will have to review the adherence to the rule of law in all member states. This body will ultimately have to prepare a document that will form the basis for further budgetary decisions. This is the risk that President Jourová sees” – said Marshal of the Senate Tomasz Grodzki after meeting with the Vice-President of the European Commission, Věra Jourová.
11:18
- I want to say very clearly, referring to the visit of Commissioner Jourová today, we are open to dialogue; we were, we are, and we will be open. We want to present our case. The first, fundamental point is that the organization of the judiciary, the determination of its operating principles, is the exclusive competence of an EU Member State. That is the starting point. Secondly, when we discuss individual systems, let's remember: we are accused of the National Council of the Judiciary (KRS) being established contrary to the spirit of the rule of law and EU law. But what about countries where there are no judicial councils? We are told that politicians decide who becomes a judge. This is not true. In Poland, judges decide who becomes a judge. For example, in Germany, politicians decide; in the Czech Republic, the President, but it requires the counter-signature of politicians, the government. Therefore, these accusations are absolutely unfounded, but we want to present our case. Perhaps there was a lack of communication. We want to present our case and convince others of our arguments. We are confident in our position - stated Michał Wójcik at a briefing in Katowice.
12:03
PMM:
The Red Army's Capture of Berlin in 1945 Doesn't Erase Earlier Years of History
13:34
Kidawa-Błońska Publishes Photo with Budka and Siemoniak:
Ready for Action.
Małgorzata Kidawa-Błońska, the Civic Platform's presidential candidate, shared a photo on Twitter with Borys Budka and Tomasz Siemoniak. The caption read, "Ready for action." The image, posted on January 29, 2020, shows the three politicians together, presumably discussing their political strategy.
The tweet, which links to a Twitter post by @m_k_blonska, was shared with the hashtag #gotowido_dzialania, further emphasizing their readiness to engage in political activities. The photo likely aims to project an image of unity and preparedness within the Civic Platform as they gear up for upcoming elections.
14:22
"The entire meeting was dedicated to the issue of the rule of law in Poland, the issue of the Supreme Court's resolution of January 23, and the reaction to this resolution. We talked about current events and events of recent months. We answered our guests' questions, which showed that they were well-informed about Polish realities. Their knowledge of what is happening in Poland – in the legislative, media, or political spheres – is very good" – said the Supreme Court spokesperson, Michał Laskowski.
16:25
President Andrzej Duda has invited representatives of parliamentary clubs and circles to the Presidential Palace for tomorrow.
The invitation was announced by Marcin Kędryna on Twitter:
Prezydent RP Andrzej Duda zaprasza na jutro do Pałacu przedstawicieli klubów i kół poselskich. pic.twitter.com/v8IysP7E0q
— Marcin Kędryna (@marcin_kedryna) January 28, 2020
17:00
The Council of Europe has adopted a resolution concerning Poland. The provided links offer further details:
17:18
Mitera:
A Resolution is Not a Source of Law. It Only Binds Senate Chambers.
18:23
Ziobro:
I Proposed a Compromise Achievable Within the Framework of Judge Selection in Poland
18:47
Ziobro:
Polish Government Will Never Agree to Segregation of EU Member States and Citizens
- I have stated very clearly that Poland will never agree, the Polish government will never agree, and in any case, the Minister of Justice of this government, in which I have the honor to serve, will certainly never agree to the introduction of segregation of EU member states and citizens of EU member states. It cannot be that in some EU member states and the EC agree to judges being indirectly elected by citizens through a democratic mechanism, as is the case in Germany, while in another state like Poland, where we are introducing a very indirect mechanism of democratic control to the process of selecting judges, by introducing an intermediary body, the National Council of the Judiciary, in which judges selected by a 3/5 majority, meaning a qualified majority of the Polish Parliament, the Sejm, still play a leading role. Therefore, we will never agree to be told that we are not allowed to, that Poles are not allowed to, while others are allowed. We will not agree to be told that we are civilizationally or culturally backward, especially when such patronizing tones are expressed by representatives of states that have much more complicated histories and dramas, not only of their own nations but also of other nations that have experienced the consequences of democracy, for example, since 1933. We will not agree to be treated in this manner. We are in favor of friendship between all states and citizens of all states, but we are in favor of everyone being treated equally. And since Article 5 of the European Treaties stipulates that competences expressly provided for the EU fall within its remit, while all others, including the organization of the judiciary, are the responsibility of individual states, we want to build a mechanism for the democratic election of judges and reform the Polish judiciary on this principle of sovereignty, just like other states, because Polish democracy allows us to do so and we will not allow it to be restricted in any way - stated Zbigniew Ziobro at a press conference.
18:53
18:56
„I addressed the Commissioner’s statements, who in her public appearances expressed concern about media actions aimed at undermining trust in judges, including a campaign intended to expose irregularities in the judicial community that does not reflect reality. I took the liberty to provide the Commissioner with two documents, materials that document a certain process of critically evaluating what is happening in the Polish judiciary. One of these materials is an interview, an article, that Prof. Rzepliński authored for „Gazeta Wyborcza” in 2004, in which he spoke – the Commissioner read with great interest and attention – that even then, the media were reporting on numerous corruption scandals for a profession of people with impeccable character, on drunk judges in court buildings, drunk judges behind the wheel of cars, and judges who were perpetrators of common crimes” – said Minister Zbigniew Ziobro at a press conference.
„This fragment, and another one I quoted to the Commissioner, clearly shows that criticism regarding the situation in the Polish judiciary is not only being voiced now, when the United Right is in power. It was not being voiced this way in 2015, when we first won parliamentary elections, but this kind of diagnosis was being made, and it was made on the pages of „GW” in 2004, and it was made by a person who can be accused of anything, but not of being a sympathizer of the PiS government or an emanation of our government. Therefore, what Mrs. Jourová was saying is not true. I believe she was misled, and it is worth correcting the Commissioner’s mistake” – he added.
19:11
Jourová:
No Compromise on Values, but Cooperation to Better Define Core Principles
- I wanted to hear different standpoints. So as not to hear only one side. I spoke very decisively that we will stand guard over the Treaties, and that is how I perceive my role as a Commissioner. If the principles applied in Member States are not in line with EU law, then we must act in such a way as to initiate procedures that rectify this situation, that serve the observance of the Treaties. I told our partners that we are open to dialogue and that we cannot reach any compromise on values, on fundamental principles. But it is obvious that we will cooperate to better define what these fundamental values of the rule of law are, what the main parameters of an independent judiciary are, and what the obligations of Member States are, so that they are partners that European judiciaries can trust, because in European judiciaries, we fully rely on equivalence, on mutual recognition of justice - said Vera Jourová during a press briefing.
- Another principle, or rather a red line that I do not want to cross, is that I do not want to engage in internal, national political debate. That is not my role. Taking these criteria into account, I must say that the discussions I held were successful. I reiterated that I came here to listen and to try to understand. I clearly stated that I am looking for a way forward. The Commission will continue to fulfill its role as the guardian of the Treaties, and this will also apply to the Polish judicial reform. We want to open a new chapter of dialogue. I have asked Minister Ziobro to create a technical platform with us where we will define the steps that need to be taken, and I think we have agreed on the general principle that no further surprises will occur. We must be aware of what we are planning on both sides. So that the dialogue is fair and sincere. And this dialogue with Mr. Ziobro was indeed open and sincere. This does not mean that we agreed on all the things we talked about. Of course, there are differences, there is a whole list of things that the Commission would like to change [simultaneous translation by TVN24] - added the Vice-President of the European Commission.
19:29
Ziobro:
Commissioner Jourová Learned that Colleagues from Civic Platform Saw the Solution in Parliament Electing KRS Members, Exactly What We Did
"Commissioner Jourová learned that her colleagues from Civic Platform saw the solution to the problem in Parliament electing members of the National Council of the Judiciary (KRS), which is exactly what we did. It's interesting if they also considered it contrary to European law at the time. This is also puzzling, and I think the Commissioner will reflect on it. Civic Platform went even further with these solutions, proposing that judges not sit on this body at all, but rather representatives of corporations, so that they could effectively control judges" - said Minister Zbigniew Ziobro at a press conference.
19:34
19:38
- Meetings are taking place in various formats, I don't see any competition here. I see more of a comprehensive approach, a mutual complementing. It is a decision that the President will make [regarding participation in the Polish Academy of Sciences roundtable], however, this is an initiative that is known to us, that was presented to us, and I think it is highly probable that the President's Chancellery will be represented at this meeting - said Paweł Mucha in an interview with Dorota Gawryluk on the program "Gość Wydarzeń" on Polsat News.
19:42
Mucha:
When the President Speaks of Eliminating Certain Pathologies in the Justice System, He Speaks with Broad Social Approval
- When the President speaks of eliminating certain pathologies in the functioning of the justice system, he speaks with a voice that has broad social approval, because certain phenomena should be removed. There are black sheep in every environment - said Paweł Mucha in an interview with Dorota Gawryluk on the program "Gość Wydarzeń" on Polsat News.
20:12
- I'd hope that the [parliamentary parties at tomorrow's meeting with President Duda] convince the president to veto this dangerous bill, which many call a muzzle. If the president intends to sign it, then attempts to persuade the opposition parties to agree to it are probably a bit of a waste of time, but I adhere to the simple principle that dialogue is always better than its absence, so this in itself is quite important, and it's good that the president has started inviting people from the opposition, as I also had the opportunity to speak with him one-on-one. No significant effects are visible yet, but perhaps they will come - stated Tomasz Grodzki in an interview with Anita Werner on TVN24's "Fakty po faktach".
20:19
20:23
Dera:
Following the Supreme Court's Resolution, We Must Simply Talk to Each Other
- Following the Supreme Court's resolution, the situation is such that we simply need to talk to each other. This resolution has introduced a state of uncertainty, a state of suspension for several hundred judges, and we simply need to talk to each other about what's next, in which direction, and how to do it so that the judiciary is not paralyzed - said Andrzej Dera in an interview with Monika Olejnik on "Kropka nad i" (Point by Point) on TVN24.
20:25
Grodzki:
Jourová Emphasized Strongly That Rule of Law is Non-Negotiable; The Ministry of Justice and PM Morawiecki Should Take This to Heart
- Ms. Jourová came to Poland to see the situation and seek dialogue, but as she rightly emphasized, and very strongly at that, the rule of law and its observance are non-negotiable. I would strongly take this remark to heart if I were in the position of the Ministry of Justice or Prime Minister Morawiecki - stated Tomasz Grodzki in an interview with Anita Werner on TVN24's "Fakty po faktach".
20:27
Dera:
The Supreme Court essentially said: these are judges, but they shouldn't adjudicate. This is an assault on the fundamental principle that judges are irremovable.
- I am concerned that through a resolution of the Supreme Court, in a manner hitherto unknown in democratic states, the Supreme Court has essentially stated: these are judges, but they should not adjudicate. This is something that should not happen, because it is an assault on the fundamental principle that judges are irremovable - Andrzej Dera stated in an interview with Monika Olejnik on TVN24's 'Kropka nad i'.
20:32
Dera:
I Will Always Say It, Because I Know Marian Banaś, That He Is an Honest Man
- I will always say it, because I knew and know Mr. Marian Banaś, that he is an honest man. I have always thought so. I will remind you of the principle: for others, the principle is that if they are not convicted, they are innocent, but in Mr. Banaś's case, he must be guilty because he is from the other camp. Not for me - said Andrzej Dera in an interview with Monika Olejnik on TVN24's "Kropka nad i".
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