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05/08/2019

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Wednesday's Political Agenda: Senate on Expanding 500+, PM with Georgian President, SLD and Secular State on Religious Offense Laws

Wednesday marks the first day of the Senate session, which will commence at 11:00 AM. Half an hour earlier, Marshal Stanisław Karczewski will meet with journalists. Senators will address the expansion of the Rodzina 500+ program to include the first child. It is almost certain that the upper house will adopt the bill without amendments, so that President Duda can then sign it. The Senate will also work on a bill to reduce the copper tax by 15%.

Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki will meet with Georgian President Salome Zourabichvili at 2:05 PM. At 11:00 AM, Wiosna and Robert Biedroń will hold their press conference on PiS's actions in the healthcare system. At noon, President Andrzej Duda will present diplomas to the winners of the "Accessibility Leader" competition.

At 9:30 AM, the Świeckie Państwo (Secular State) initiative and SLD leader Włodzimierz Czarzasty have announced a press conference on regulations concerning the offense of religious feelings. In Piaseczno, at 7:30 PM, there will be a meeting between KE candidates - Danuta Hübner, Władysław Teofil Bartoszewski, and Paweł Pudłowski - with residents.


07:55

Kwaśniewski on Podleśna's Arrest: The Methods, 6 AM, Transport to the Police, all these harassments, are inappropriate, inadequate for the case
I can comprehend a lot, but I consider this a grave mistake. There is no reason to use such methods in a case of this nature – stated Aleksander Kwaśniewski in an interview with Konrad Piasecki on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego". I personally do not believe that an image of the Virgin Mary with a rainbow in the background is offensive, nor did I believe that the image of Christ published by Urban should be subject to any penalty. However, the state's reaction is absolutely disproportionate – he continued. The methods, especially at 6 AM, being transported to the police, and then all the harassments this woman experienced, are absolutely inappropriate, inadequate for the entire matter – added the former president.

08:06

Kwaśniewski on Biedroń's Party: It Would Be Good if His Electorate Voted Together, Then Victory Over PiS Would Be Much More Realistic. On the Other Hand, I Understand Him. If He Wants to Make an Attempt, to Show His Distinctiveness, Then When, if Not Now?
- I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, it would be good if Biedroń's electorate voted together, meaning the victory over PiS would be much more realistic, and on the other hand, I understand Biedroń. Meaning, if he is to make an attempt, if he wants to create his movement, to show his distinctiveness, then when if not now? - stated Aleksander Kwaśniewski in an interview with Konrad Piasecki on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego". He added:
"I believe that Biedroń's project has a chance to appeal to those voters who will never vote for PiS or for anti-PiS. That is, to younger voters, frustrated ones, etc. In this sense, any merger of Biedroń with someone else undermines the argument that he is new, fresh, that to some extent he is anti-establishment. I think that since he started this experiment, when the project was conceived and is being implemented, he should continue further."
- If the result is below the electoral threshold, it obviously means that it did not succeed - he continued.

08:09

Kwaśniewski:

Confronting PiS Today is Extremely Difficult. It's the Richest, Strongest Party in Poland. Only the PZPR Had Such an Advantage in Recent History

- Please remember that confronting PiS today is extremely difficult, because PiS has a very consolidated electorate, and PiS wins, it prevails in terms of organization, money, and structure. It is the richest, strongest party in Poland. Only the PZPR had such an advantage in recent history - stated Aleksander Kwaśniewski in a conversation with Konrad Piasecki on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego".


08:12

Kwaśniewski:

Expectations towards Tusk from the European Coalition were certainly higher. He behaved, rightly so, with some distance as President of the European Council.

- Expectations towards Tusk from the European Coalition were certainly higher. He probably disappointed because they wanted him to unequivocally support, even join, this campaign. He behaved, rightly so, with some distance as President of the European Council - stated Aleksander Kwaśniewski in an interview with Konrad Piasecki on TVN24's "Rozmowa Piaseckiego".


08:32

Kopcińska:

The Polish Church, which we defend and will continue to defend, is under attack

- Whenever a notification of a potential commission of a crime is filed, the police and services must perform their duties. However, it is the prosecutor's office and the court, in turn, that rule on whether guilt exists, to what extent, or not - stated Joanna Kopcińska in an interview with Piotr Witwicki on Polsat News's "Graffiti." She added:

"Whenever religious feelings were offended, the police reacted in the same way. Here, the religious feelings of Catholics, who are a vast majority in Poland, have been offended. A notification of a potential commission of a crime was filed, and police actions were taken. This applies equally to all denominations. In 2015, when pork was found in a mosque, it was during the PO government's term. The police undertook similar actions, and then it wasn't so loud, nor was there an outcry. Here, the Polish Church is under attack, which we defend and will continue to defend."


08:37

Brudziński:

Police Knocked on Podleśna's Door at 7 AM, They Did Not Break In at 6 AM as Presented

Since yesterday, we have been hearing about alleged police entry at 6 AM to Ms. Podleśna's. She herself said it was after 6 AM. After 6 AM could mean a minute past 6 AM, or it could be 7 AM. The police knocked on Ms. Podleśna's door at 7 AM, they did not break in at 6 AM, as it is being presented” - said Minister Joachim Brudziński on Polish Radio 24.


08:38

Brudziński:

Masked Women in Płock Placed Images of Our Lady of Częstochowa with Rainbow Halos on Portable Toilets and Bins. This Was Desecration of the Holy Sepulchre and an Attack on a Priest
“If it were the case that Ms. Podleśna or anyone else in Poland, touched by some artistic vision, had painted a rainbow around the head of the image of the Mother of God, then the police intervening would indeed be seen as an abuse of power. However, the situation was diametrically different. It is the Easter holidays, a sacred time for Catholics and Christians, it is Holy Saturday. LGBT activists entered a church in Płock and attempted to desecrate it. They desecrated the Holy Sepulchre by sticking flags symbolizing their community into the tomb. Subsequently, there was an attempt to incite a commotion inside the church; a priest, a person of great merit for Płock, but also for the independence opposition, was attacked. The priest was verbally attacked, provoked. Then, at night, masked women – if it was meant to be an artistic vision, why were these women masked? Did they feel they were doing something inappropriate, something against the law? In my opinion, certainly so. Not the act of scattering or publishing the image of Our Lady of Częstochowa with a halo, but sticking this image onto portable toilets, rubbish bins, scattering it around the church. Should the state react, should it act, when this is described in the Penal Code?” – said Minister Joachim Brudziński on Polish Radio 24.

08:43

Brudziński:

Why Did You Cheer When Police Responded in Pruchnik, But When Catholics' Religious Feelings Are Offended, It's 'Oh Dear,' the World is Ending, Democracy?

"I am reiterating my question to all outraged politicians, artists, journalists. Why did you applaud the Polish police when they reacted to the behavior in Pruchnik? (...) Back then, the police were praised. They were praised when they protected a legal LGBT march. When the police reacted appropriately when the religious feelings of Catholics or Christians were offended, then it's 'oh dear,' the world is ending, democracy. Do Catholics and Christians have different rights than citizens of other faiths?" - said Minister Joachim Brudziński on Polskie Radio 24.


08:47

Brudziński:

Tusk is Pivotal. We All Remember What Citizen Freedom Looked Like Under Tusk's PO Government, How Miners Were Shot in Silesia, How Demonstrations Were Pacified

Donald Tusk is – as Mr. Marek Belka used to say – pivotal, revolving. Depending on what suits him, he adopts that narrative. We all remember what citizen freedom looked like under Donald Tusk during the PO government. We all remember how miners were shot in Silesia, how ordinary fans heading to a football match were detained as part of Operation Fork. We all remember how various demonstrations were pacified” – said Minister Joachim Brudziński on Polish Radio 24.


08:50

Czarzasty:

I Don't Believe a Debate Between All Committee Leaders Will Happen

- A very good discussion [with Frans Timmermans]. I believe it was one of the most serious, because I don't believe a debate between all committee leaders will happen. I think it won't. Therefore, if it doesn't happen, who on the left side, for instance, could discuss more seriously than Timmermans, Kwaśniewski, and Cimoszewicz? - stated Włodzimierz Czarzasty in an interview with Marek Pyza on TVP1's "Political Quarter Hour".


09:13

Pyza to Czarzasty: How Can We Believe Cimoszewicz Will Care for Poland's Affairs in the EP If He Can't Even Get His Car Inspected?
"How can we believe that Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz will care for Poland's affairs in the EP if he can't even get his own car inspected?" - Marek Pyza asked Włodzimierz Czarzasty on TVP1's "Political Quarter Hour". - I expect more from you, honestly. Unfortunately, you disappoint me in this matter - replied the leader of SLD. "Millions of Poles have the same problem every year and go to diagnostic stations" - the program host continued. - We need to call a spade a spade. Mr. Cimoszewicz neglected this matter, he explained why, the matter is clear. He neglected it because he believed the car had a technical inspection. He bought a car that, in his opinion, came with a technical inspection. He stated this clearly - said Czarzasty.

09:23

Czarzasty:

The EU is at a turning point. The next 5 years will decide the future of the EU, and thus Poland's

- The European Union is at a turning point. The next 5 years will decide the future of the EU, and thus Poland's. I must tell you that, respecting the young and the old, it is usually the case that young boys run fast, and older people know where to go - stated Włodzimierz Czarzasty in an interview with Marek Pyza on TVP1's "Political Fifteen Minutes".


10:22

Karczewski:

"Platforma truly ruined the healthcare system"
- For those 8 years, Platforma truly ruined the healthcare system because they wanted the healthcare system to be profit-managed, so there would be competition between hospitals, also based on acquiring funds. Well, no, that's a completely different area of life. It was a huge mistake, a big blunder. We remember that the late President Lech Kaczyński reacted and was very much against the commercialization of hospitals, which directly led to the privatization of hospitals. This cannot be done in the healthcare system, because the market will not solve the problems of healthcare. PO opted for the wrong concept - stated Stanisław Karczewski in an interview with Jacek Prusinowski on Radio Plus. - What Grzegorz Schetyna is doing are slogans, but absolutely unsupported by any ideas or reflections,

10:26

Karczewski:

We All Need a Lot of Patience, Not Just Those with Low Salaries. The Solutions Being Implemented Require Time to Show Tangible Effects
- A lot has changed for the better in healthcare. Organizing this system was a very difficult task, and we did it. The law on the hospital network – this law was already prepared by the late Professor Religa. Ewa Kopacz, Religa's successor, threw this wonderful, extremely necessary solution in the bin – stated Stanisław Karczewski in an interview with Jacek Prusinowski on Radio Plus. - We all need a lot of patience. Not just those with low salaries, but all of us. The solutions being implemented, have already been put into practice and will be, also require time to produce tangible effects – added the Marshal of the Senate.

10:28

Karczewski on Presidential Elections: Personally, I Believe PAD is Our Natural and Very Good Candidate
We are not discussing this topic [PiS candidate for presidential elections]. Personally, I believe that President Duda, and incidentally, I had the opportunity to meet with the President yesterday during the visit of the President of Georgia, is our natural and very good candidate – stated Stanisław Karczewski in an interview with Jacek Prusinowski on Radio Plus.

10:28

Secular State Coalition, SLD, Spring, and Greens Protest Attack on Proponents of Church-State Separation. Czarzasty: The Rainbow Offends Those with Filth in Their Heads

Jarosław Kaczyński said that now these people [who advocate for the separation of church and state] are to be beaten, they are to face aggression, and we are encountering it. This is happening for a reason, because the church in Poland has sided very clearly, the church hierarchs are very openly supporting PiS. Catholic publicists, including priests, are very openly supporting PiS. Pulpits will soon become places of very sharp political campaigning, so the church, which has received the most from PiS, has not received such privileges from anyone before, will fight on the side of PiS, and Jarosław Kaczyński knows this” - said Agata Diduszko-Zyglewska, a councilwoman from Civic Coalition in Warsaw, at a press conference.

I am speaking to Mr. Kaczyński and Mr. Brudziński: you gentlemen should deal with someone who is capable of shooting down your lies in the media with the truth, with me. Leave these people whom you are attacking, whom you consider weaker. Who is bothered by the rainbow? The rainbow bothers people who have filth in their heads, nonsense in their heads. Religion will fare well on its own. No left-wing party will fight against religion, but every left-wing party will fight against the clergy and the episcopate using state organs to fight for their rights and laws. We have had enough of this” - added Włodzimierz Czarzasty, the leader of SLD.

We want the withdrawal of religion from schools, transparent financing of the church, an end to privileges for priests, and the deletion of Article 196 from the Penal Code concerning the offense of religious feelings. We want normalcy” - argued Paulina Piechna-Więckiewicz from Spring. 


10:52

Karczewski:

There are no politically motivated operations

- There are no politically motivated operations. I can say right away that there is no such formula, and it should not be used linguistically at all. First and foremost, I am against what happened. I received the information about the desecration of the greatest icon of Polish Catholics, not only Poles, with indignation. It was an event that affected all those for whom the image of Our Lady of Częstochowa is so dear, and everyone is equal before the law, and here the police actions are absolutely justified. I do not want to comment on the form, because I don't even know what was used, but everyone is equal before the law, and similarly, in situations where the religious feelings of Muslims or Jews were violated, police interventions were justified, necessary, and needed. We have a penal code that, in Article 196, takes care of protecting religious feelings, and that is good. The voices appearing about abolishing this article are completely unfounded – stated Stanisław Karczewski at a briefing in the Senate.


11:06

Karczewski:

I would like to appeal to teachers and ZNP to engage in debate, discussion

- I would like to appeal to teachers and ZNP to engage in debate, discussion. May 10th, which is in two days, is another session of the roundtable. I encourage and appeal and ask for conversation, debate. We will surely find a good solution for teachers – stated Stanisław Karczewski at a briefing in the Senate.


11:15

Czarnecki:

European Coalition Must Apologize to Me, Billboards to Be Removed and Replaced with Apologies

- I initiated electoral proceedings against the European Coalition. The matter concerned the European Coalition placing billboards in the Polish capital and surrounding Warsaw districts featuring my likeness, digitally altered, with the inscription that Ryszard Czarnecki is fleeing to Brussels. This was part of a broader campaign where the European Coalition aimed to prove that current and former PiS ministers are fleeing to Brussels. I initiated proceedings under electoral law. Yesterday, the court considered the case. The verdict is unequivocal. The European Coalition must apologize to me. These billboards are to be removed. Furthermore, information is to be displayed in their place, on the same billboards, with the following content [that the European Coalition apologizes to Czarnecki] - stated Ryszard Czarnecki at a briefing at PiS headquarters.


11:21

Civic Platform Requests Extraordinary Session of the Internal Affairs Committee Following Podleśna's Arrest. Nitras: We Live in a Country Where Instructions for State Organs are Issued at Political Rallies
“We put forward the thesis that there was pressure on the prosecution from Minister Brudziński, from PiS officials, not Polish state officials, to bring charges against this woman. We live in a state where instructions for state actions are issued at political rallies, and then PiS officials, disguised as public officials, instruct the police and prosecution on what these bodies should do. This is the misuse of Polish state organs against Polish citizens and in the interest of a political party during an election campaign, solely to ignite a religious war in Poland,” Sławomir Nitras from Civic Platform stated at a press conference in the Sejm.

If the prosecution issues a search warrant, and Minister Brudziński bypasses this warrant and orders police officers to detain a Polish citizen, we say that an abuse of power has indeed occurred. This matter requires serious clarification, which is why we are requesting an extraordinary session of the Committee on Internal Affairs and Administration so that the minister can explain how this abuse of power happened. We will base further legal steps on this information,” added Cezary Tomczyk.


11:24

Czarnecki:

Today, a newspaper reported Cimoszewicz fled the scene of an accident. I appeal to the candidate to address this.

- Today, a newspaper published information on its front page that candidate Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz fled the scene of an accident. I appeal to the candidate Cimoszewicz to react immediately to this information, so that the candidate addresses it, in order to clarify this matter and leave no room for doubt. This is my good advice, I say this out of concern - stated Ryszard Czarnecki at a briefing at the PiS headquarters.


11:59

Commissioner for Human Rights Inquires About the Legal Basis for State Representatives' Actions Towards Elżbieta Podleśna

The Commissioner for Human Rights is requesting information from the District Prosecutor in Płock, Norbert Pęcherzewski, regarding the status of the case and clarification on whether he authorized the search of Elżbieta Podleśna's apartment. Meanwhile, the Commissioner is asking Inspector Paweł Dobrodziej, the Commander of the Warsaw Metropolitan Police, for details:

on the legal grounds and premises for the arrest and search;

on the circumstances of the arrest and search (clarifying whether prior actions were taken to ensure the detainee's appearance and whether Ms. E. Podleśna's prior conduct justified the suspicion that she would not appear upon summons or would otherwise unlawfully obstruct the proceedings);

whether any direct coercive measures were used during the arrest and transport of the detainee to the Municipal Police Headquarters in Płock, and if so, what they were, and potentially – what the factual and legal basis for using these measures was;

whether the detainee filed a complaint against the arrest or a complaint against the officers regarding the manner of execution of the arrest.

Should it turn out that the search of Elżbieta Podleśna's apartment was not based on an order from Prosecutor Pęcherzewski, Adam Bodnar is asking Inspector Dobrodziej who issued such an order.


12:01

Olszewski:

The Greatest Profanation of the Mother of God for me is Radio Maryja. Religion Still, or Already Politics or Business?

Jan Olszewski, a prominent figure associated with the Polish right, has stated that for him, the greatest profanation of the Mother of God is Radio Maryja. He questioned whether the station still represents religion, or has it already crossed into politics or business.

This statement, made via Twitter, suggests a critical view of the Catholic radio station, which is often seen as a conservative and politically influential media outlet in Poland. Olszewski's remarks imply that Radio Maryja may be deviating from its spiritual mission and engaging in activities that he considers inappropriate for a religious institution.

The exact context of his statement, and what specific actions or content of Radio Maryja prompted this strong reaction, are not detailed in the provided link. However, the phrasing suggests a concern about the station's perceived blurring of lines between faith, political engagement, and commercial interests.


13:42

Schetyna:

Additional PLN 100 Billion from the EU Budget, Secured by Year-End, Will Be Allocated to Improving Healthcare Standards

"The fight for an additional PLN 100 billion in the new financial perspective for 2021-27. We know that the proposal on the table today, resulting from the incompetent negotiations of the PiS government, is PLN 100 billion less than the money we managed to negotiate and secure in the budget of the previous perspective. This additional money, which we will secure by the end of this year, we will want to allocate in large part to improving standards in healthcare. For this, we need debate, discussion, and information," said PO (Civic Platform) leader Grzegorz Schetyna at a press conference. "It is necessary to build a map, a diagnosis, and confirmation of what we have been saying in recent days, namely the most important points that require total support from public, European finances. We are talking about the most significant threat, the fight against cancer."

"Cuts in the EU budget for Poland, caused by the incompetent policy of PiS, have concrete implications for many areas of life," added the Mayor of Warsaw, Rafał Trzaskowski. "As the Mayor of Warsaw, I see every day how much this money is needed."


13:54

Schetyna on Podleśna's Arrest: A Scandalous and Disgraceful Affair. A Picture of Compromise and Shame for the Rulers
"The affair is scandalous and disgraceful. If the Minister of the Interior and Administration wants to be informed about this intervention by 6 police officers at 6 a.m., and if the prosecution does not admit that it stemmed from its decision, then we want to know who made the decision, who bears responsibility for it. This picture is a picture of compromise and shame for the rulers, for the Minister of the Interior and PiS. We will do everything to prevent such things from happening in the future. Poland must be a democratic and lawful country. We will all fight for this," said PO chairman Grzegorz Schetyna at a press conference.

16:04

Kuchciński:

Next week's Sejm session will address, among other things, a bill ensuring funding for the reconstruction of local bus route networks

The upcoming Sejm session – the only one this month – will take place from May 15-17, i.e., from next Wednesday to next Friday.

https://twitter.com/MarekKuchcinski/status/1126117967253725184


19:37

Kwaśniewski:

I Wouldn't Endorse Jażdżewski's Words. I Believe They Are Too Radical

"I wouldn't call it a war, but there is a serious dispute that has a real dimension and an electoral-verbal dimension. The real dimension is that we are not implementing what is written in the constitution, the principle of a secular state and the freedom of religious autonomy. The Church in Poland today is too strongly, too closely tied to the ruling party" - said former President Aleksander Kwaśniewski in an interview with Bogdan Rymanowski on "Wydarzenia i opinie" on Polsat News.

"I wouldn't endorse [Jażdżewski's words]. I believe they are too radical. In such a debate, one radicalism is answered by another radicalism. If we lead to a debate where there are only radicals or extremists, it's difficult to find an agreement" - he added.


19:41

Kwaśniewski:

Tusk Can Seriously Consider the Presidency of Poland

"Donald Tusk is a great hope for the circles that have been governing so far. Tusk can seriously consider the position of President of Poland." - said former President Aleksander Kwaśniewski in a conversation with Bogdan Rymanowski in "Wydarzenia i opinie" on Polsat News. - "I think the best scenario for him is a good result for the European Coalition, a good result for some coalition in the parliamentary elections in the autumn, and then entering the presidential elections in 2020."


19:51

Schetyna on the Podleśna Case: 'Seeing Turkey's Erdoğan Overturn Local Elections Because He Disliked the Istanbul Result, I Think Polish and Turkish Realities are Truly Converging'

- I see this [what is happening in the case of the poster of the Black Madonna of Częstochowa with a rainbow halo] as a departure from the rule of law. A country where the decisions of its most important officials send the police, make arrests, and enter private homes at 6 AM is a country that violates the standards of parliamentary democracy. It could have been done differently, as the prosecutor said. If I read the tweets of the Minister of the Interior and Administration, a PiS candidate and probably PiS secretary-general, and I read his tweets, he is issuing verdicts. He announces in tweets that charges will be brought against this person. So I ask myself, where am I? When I see Turkey's Erdoğan overturning local elections because he disliked the result in Istanbul, because his candidate lost, I think that these realities, Polish and Turkish, are truly beginning to converge - stated Grzegorz Schetyna in an interview with Piotr Marciniak on TVN24's "Fakty po faktach".


19:56

Schetyna:

I don't have the impression the Church is particularly attacked. I don't see any special attack being organized. Not one that the ruling party leader would have to defend.
- That is hate speech [from Jarosław Kaczyński]. I don't have the impression that the Church is particularly attacked. I don't want to open this topic, because everyone is talking about it and it's indeed a serious matter, but the Church's position has been strong for centuries in Poland and over recent years, decades, and I don't see any special attack being organized against the Church. Not one that the ruling party leader would have to defend - stated Grzegorz Schetyna in an interview with Piotr Marciniak on TVN24's "Fakty po faktach".

19:59

Schetyna on Jażdżewski's Speech: It's Not a Politician's Role to Comment on a Journalist's Words. A Journalist Can Do More.

- It's not a politician's role to comment on a journalist's words. A journalist can do more, they can comment on reality, evaluate politicians. We are used to that in free media. I respect freedom of expression, full of expression, but I was at the university to listen to Donald Tusk - stated Grzegorz Schetyna in a conversation with Piotr Marciniak on TVN24's "Fakty po faktach" when asked about Leszek Jażdżewski's speech at the University of Warsaw on Friday.


20:12

Jażdżewski:

Those Who Wanted to Be Offended and Succumbed to the False Interpretation Imposed by TVP, TVP Info, and wpolityce.pl Felt Offended
- Nobody is a pig; it's like an explanation, the equivalent of 'fighting windmills' in English. Those who wanted to be offended and succumbed to the false interpretation imposed by TVP, TVP Info, and wpolityce.pl felt offended. I suspect that if it weren't for their reaction and the interpretation they imposed, we wouldn't be talking today and there wouldn't be this whole discussion - said Leszek Jażdżewski on Kropka nad I.

20:12

Jażdżewski:

90 Seconds of an 8-Minute Speech About Not Engaging in Hate with Haters
- That was 90 seconds of an approximately 8-minute speech, stating that one cannot engage in hate with haters. I said that a change in policy and narrative is needed. Responding to Jacek Kurski and those who incorporated the murderers of Father Popiełuszko into the 'Wiadomości' material, or to Krystyna Pawłowicz, who called me a satanofascist, with the same insults makes no sense - Leszek Jażdżewski stated on 'Kropka nad I'.

20:13

Olejnik:

TVP's Act Was Shameful, But You Fueled the Religious War
- You provoked it yourself. I believe that what TVP did by placing you with the murderer of Father Popiełuszko was shameful, but you gave fuel to a religious war. You gave fuel to Jarosław Kaczyński to talk about a raised hand against the Catholic Church. Did you serve the European Coalition? - Monika Olejnik said to Leszek Jażdżewski.

20:22

Jażdżewski:

PiS is the Church's armed wing. This armed wing manifested itself 3 days later when Joachim Brudziński announced a woman had been detained in Płock.
- I am surprised that you, a person who follows politics so closely, believe that Jarosław Kaczyński needs any pretext to manipulate someone's words and to attack - Leszek Jażdżewski said in Kropka. - You've provided a fantastic pretext - Olejnik replied. - It's quite absurd that any political party considers itself a guardian of Christian values. In my opinion, PiS has little in common with them - Jażdżewski stated. - And who do you consider yourself to be? - A publicist who tries to talk about the need for new politics and new ideas, and that the main obstacle to modernity in Poland is this national-Catholic amalgamation, in which PiS is the armed wing of the Church. This armed wing manifested itself 3 days later, when Joachim Brudziński announced that a woman had been detained in Płock.

20:29

Olejnik:

I'm not speaking your words, because you lump everyone together. Do you also lump Bishop Ryś, Father Wiśniewski, the Polish Primate?
- I don't recall the Civic Platform under Tusk's government submitting a draft on civil partnerships to the Sejm. Perhaps one should say that politicians fear the Church. Maybe they shouldn't be afraid to formulate their modern ideas? I'm not speaking your words, because you lump everyone together. Do you also lump Bishop Ryś, Father Wiśniewski, the Polish Primate? The Primate is very distressed by this and has apologized many times for pedophilia. One can criticize Archbishop Jędraszewski, who believes that pedophiles are today's martyrs... - said Monika Olejnik. - The reaction of people who felt that someone said something out loud for them. It's not enlightened bishops who decide the direction of the Catholic Church in Poland - Jażdżewski replied.

20:35

Jażdżewski:

Many felt someone finally spoke the truth face-to-face to the opposition leaders who need pampering and thanks just for being able to walk
- I said that on my own account and I said it in my own name. It's not my role to be a punching bag and to care about the opinions of Civic Coalition leaders. Many felt that someone finally spoke the truth face-to-face to the opposition leaders who need pampering and thanks just for being able to walk - said Leszek Jażdżewski in Kropka nad I.

20:37

Jażdżewski:

The reaction united everyone from Lubnauer to Pawłowicz, except the left – credit where credit's due
The reaction united everyone from Lubnauer to Pawłowicz, except the left – credit where credit's due – said Leszek Jażdżewski on Kropka nad I.