"It is evident that we have two realities, a reality for internal needs and a reality for external needs" - said Marcin Kierwiński on TVN24, when asked about President Karol Nawrocki's harsh criticism of Volodymyr Zelensky within the country and his stripping Zelensky of an order, while at the NATO summit in Turkey he met with and spoke with the President of Ukraine.

"I am glad [...] I think that they, I mean both President Nawrocki and President Zelensky, should have a very long, sincere conversation. Prime Minister Donald Tusk has encouraged this, because I believe there is too much internal political calculation in these mutual accusations that are being made, and too little thought about the challenges of the 21st century" - he continued.

"I would expect President Nawrocki to speak loudly about historical truth [...] but that this historical truth will not be a blockade for Polish security and Polish national interest in the coming months or years" - he added.

"It's good that they talked to each other, only I would expect them not only to talk, but above all to be able to clarify their differences of opinion on this matter" - he concluded.