- I do not wish to whitewash or justify anyone from my political competition in any way. From Konfederacja's perspective, we believe that both PiS and Civic Platform should be replaced; they are declining parties, and their leadership should exit the political scene. However, I believe the situation internally is more varied. That is, equating the entire PiS or the entire team at the National Security Bureau (BBN) with blind pro-Americanism is, in my opinion, not entirely true. I do not rule out that there are blindly, foolishly pro-American politicians within PiS and the Presidential Palace, but I would not say that President Jarosław Kaczyński or President Karol Nawrocki belong to such politicians. Even Sławomir Cenckiewicz, who sometimes makes statements that appear this way, I am personally convinced that it is rather his narrative strategy - Krzysztof Bosak said on the "Rymanowski Live" channel.