- This is unfortunately the philosophy of Mr. Tusk's government at the moment. That is to say, there is no defense of Polish interests, even in the context of history. The truth must be spoken and called by its name. This means that in shaping state policy, identity policy, historical policy, there is no room for half-measures, for half-truths. Here, one must speak as it was, and defense solely for political reasons or related to attempts at relativization, we do not agree to that. We do not agree to certain events being presented in such a way - stated Paweł Szefernaker in an interview with Krzysztof Ziemiec on the program "Otwarta Konserwa".