- The discussion here is being conducted on two tracks. On the one hand, of course, it is very important, crucial today at the European summit, and we are awaiting the reports that will emerge after the discussion of the heads of government of the member states. On the other hand, for many months we have been conducting negotiations and talks with other member states, with my counterparts, the environment ministers from France and Germany, recently within the framework of the Weimar Triangle, but also with a part of Central and Eastern Europe, on the need for changes and reforms of both ETS1 and ETS2 - said Paulina Hennig-Kloska in a conversation with Piotr Marciniak in "Fakty po Faktach" on TVN24.