Kaczyński on Proposal to Abolish Immunity for Judges and Prosecutors: 'I Fear a Constitutional Majority is Beyond Reach, But We Will Seek Allies. Perhaps There Will Be a Referendum, Perhaps We Will Ask Poles.'

15/09/2019

13:50

Michał Olech

- In the last day, in the final hours, a campaign is underway against one of the proposals in our program, which was recently made available online. It concerns the abolition of parliamentary, judicial, and prosecutorial immunity. This is a moderate proposal with various limitations. Parliamentary immunity, the so-called material immunity, concerning what a Member of Parliament does as an MP, how they speak from the podium, or how they vote, or how they submit a bill, etc., etc., must obviously remain. This cannot in any way be the subject of criminal proceedings, and it has happened that it was, because Polish courts, many years ago, broke this principle, and this is also connected with various safeguards and restrictions regarding the immunity of judges and prosecutors. And of course, to change this, the Constitution must be amended, because the provisions that speak about it are in the Constitution. We will not violate the Constitution, there is no doubt about that. But we will strive for the largest possible majority. I fear a constitutional majority is beyond our capabilities, but then we will seek allies - stated PiS leader Jarosław Kaczyński in Legnica. - Perhaps in this matter there will be a referendum, perhaps we will ask Poles. It will not be binding, because there is no such legal possibility, but we want to move in this direction. Because a judge must be protected to a certain extent, that is obvious, but should they be protected when they steal in a supermarket? But that's a minor issue. Should they be protected if they are connected with local mafias or with what is essentially a local criminal network? And issue rulings related to it. No, ladies and gentlemen, they should not be protected. The same applies to a prosecutor and the same to an MP. We want to maintain safeguards. It will not be as simple as that, where anyone can gain influence or make some positive contacts with the local prosecution and, for example, put a bothersome MP or senator on trial; it will not be like that. But we believe that in the name of equality, and also based on the experience of the last 30 years, this change must be made, and we will push for it. And this is not against democracy, freedom, or the rule of law, but it is for freedom, democracy, and the rule of law - the PiS leader continued.

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